The Powert of the Shredder - Drops and Defense vid - Page 9

On October 31 2011 12:48 VTPerfect wrote:
Some more potential uses if this unit were given to protoss. Protoss struggles pretty hard on maps like Dual Sight and Metalopolis because of wide open spaces weaking forcefielding and wide open thirds as well, making thirds hard to take. I could easily see this unit being used to protect third expansions from roach/ling run ins.

I saw the technologically advanced energy fieldss, i saw units die as if the Shredder was 6 stimmed marines, I saw it clear out a mineral line. and now i don't care what it takes i have to have it.

On October 31 2011 11:07 Plexa wrote:
Late game shredders in drops are OP as fuck lol

On October 31 2011 12:54 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:

Like reavers, except with 100% accuracy

On October 31 2011 12:54 Peleus wrote:
Seriously in it's current state it's rediculously powerful even as a static defence, let alone being able to be mobile. Compare this 150/50 unit to a 150/0 spine crawler or cannon, it can handle an infiniate amount of lings vs barely being able to take 4-5. Ditto roaches or any other unit that needs to go within range.

Two of these outside of a terrans base essentially renders them immune to ling counter attacks for 300/100 after they move out with a huge siege tank / marine deathball.

On October 31 2011 12:55 wolfe wrote:


How is a shredder worse than blue flame hellions?




It costs food though? And discussing stats at this point is useless.

On October 31 2011 12:51 avilo wrote:


Protoss definitely do not need this, and 99% protoss players, even grandmasters are so used to 1A ball syndrome that the unit would be pointless lol.

Perfect, you should go into the custom map thing right now and try out the oracle. It's powerful as fuck lol @_@

On October 31 2011 13:05 VTPerfect wrote:


yeah because 1a death ball syndrome has won many gsls /sarcasm. And I already tried out the Oracle and its nice if you rush to the stargate for the oracle because early game 75 hp per mineral patch is quite alot, but there are 2 major flaws, #1 useless stargate (150 gas) for a long time. #2 200 gas itself o.o? #3 its great i took away at best 500 minerals but now i have a floating orb that does 0 damage and has no defensive capability whatsoever and is now out of energy too. I see it just being another Phoenix unit in TvP where Terran sees phoenix which immediately queues the terran to do a stim push with a few scv's and win outright. and you don't know anything about what protoss needs. I stated protoss struggles on Dual Sight and Metalopolis, Stats reflect this, i'm not delusional. and based on my explanations on why protoss struggles on those maps this unit looks like a possible solution

On October 31 2011 12:17 Grantler wrote:
That swarm host gameplay accurate? Seemed like the five from the HotS video produced more than that.

On October 31 2011 13:05 VTPerfect wrote:


yeah because 1a death ball syndrome has won many gsls /sarcasm. And I already tried out the Oracle and its nice if you rush to the stargate for the oracle because early game 75 hp per mineral patch is quite alot, but there are 2 major flaws, #1 useless stargate (150 gas) for a long time. #2 200 gas itself o.o? #3 its great i took away at best 500 minerals but now i have a floating orb that does 0 damage and has no defensive capability whatsoever and is now out of energy too. I see it just being another Phoenix unit in TvP where Terran sees phoenix which immediately queues the terran to do a stim push with a few scv's and win outright. and you don't know anything about what protoss needs. I stated protoss struggles on Dual Sight and Metalopolis, Stats reflect this, i'm not delusional. and based on my explanations on why protoss struggles on those maps this unit looks like a possible solution