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Masayoshi
9 Posts
For example +2 shield gives the normal shield upgrade and only takes 75% damage from emp and +3 shield gives the normal shield upgrade and only takes 50% damage from emp. This would have made no change in PvZ, but reduced the "OMG my army is at half health before they fired a shot" effect. It would also make shields extremely viable in PvT | ||
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kofman
Andorra698 Posts
On October 27 2011 11:29 Plansix wrote: Clearly with zero game knowledge. Do you ever wonder why people complain about the race? I wonder why people complain about terran when toss can just 1a their deathball to victory... User was warned for this post | ||
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
The fade-in for game sound during alerts changed from .5 seconds to 2 seconds" This has been completely overlooked in this thread, but I'm a little unsure of what it means precisely. I know there have been plenty of times when I get an alert WAY to late. I hear the alert that my probes or my base is under attack (while I'm in the middle of microing a battle), then press space bar only to find the damage is already done and I was under attack 10 seconds ago. As I'm sure you know MMM or mutas can kill A LOT of stuff in just 5 seconds. Has anyone else noticed this? Please don't flame with the "you should be looking at your minimap", I can't argue that isn't true, but I should be able to rely on both my visual and audio sensory to be alerted of danger. These types of alerts are in the game for this reason. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:21 Penecks wrote: I won't speak for GSL level players, but playing in the lowly master's league any late game engagement against Toss without multiple EMPs ready is a disaster for the terran. Actually going toe to toe with fully shielded chargelot/archon/possibly collosi will see your army absolutely demolished almost regardless of anything else. That's assuming you dodge every storm as well. I'll wait to try out the changes before crying further, however. EMP still exists and can still cause massive damage. I think the patch is meant to give templars some sort of possibility in the caster vs caster encounter. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On October 27 2011 12:19 The_Unseen wrote: Errr... You do realize he did so good with this build because no one knew about it at the time? I swear, try doing just this build 50 games now, and you can say goodbye to your MMR Alright, not as effective anymore but still it showed the power of terran all-ins. And the 1-1-1 build remains a very well-known and yet still extremely difficult to stop build. Many terran players on TL have admitted they can get 90% win rates vs toss below masters level if they 1-1-1 every game. If you 4-gate against terran in platinum or diamond you'll win maybe 1 in 10 games if you're lucky. Vr all-in is better but will still only work about 50% or less. Still nowhere near as good as 1-1-1. | ||
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penguinking
United States23 Posts
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
On October 27 2011 10:58 HarryHood wrote: even progamers were using multiple emps on stuff like zealots anyways, if you get like 5 ghosts there would still be np emping unitsI don't think people realize how much of a nerf this is. The the area covered by EMP is 56.25% of what it was, that is HUGE for a balance change. | ||
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Hoodlum
United States350 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:23 mordk wrote: EMP still exists and can still cause massive damage. I think the patch is meant to give templars some sort of possibility in the caster vs caster encounter. In my opinion, if the problem was caster vs caster battles then snipe is what need a look because I'm much more likely to snipe your templaar then to emp it... | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43764 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:32 Hoodlum wrote: In my opinion, if the problem was caster vs caster battles then snipe is what need a look because I'm much more likely to snipe your templaar then to emp it... Well EMP and Snipe both tend to take out infestors, high templar, and other spellcasters quite easily. You know what would solve both problems? Making the ghost's range shorter so that they couldn't get away with casting their spells over the other spellcasters every frickin time -.-' | ||
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edc
United States666 Posts
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:11 Masayoshi wrote: Instead of nerfing emp and reducing cost of upgrades I think it would have been cool to give shield upgrades emp shielding. For example +2 shield gives the normal shield upgrade and only takes 75% damage from emp and +3 shield gives the normal shield upgrade and only takes 50% damage from emp. This would have made no change in PvZ, but reduced the "OMG my army is at half health before they fired a shot" effect. It would also make shields extremely viable in PvT If that's the direction they wanted to head they would have just reduced the amount of shield damage emp does, they clearly want it to affect both TvP and TvZ. | ||
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
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susySquark
United States1692 Posts
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Well EMP and Snipe both tend to take out infestors, high templar, and other spellcasters quite easily. You know what would solve both problems? Making the ghost's range shorter so that they couldn't get away with casting their spells over the other spellcasters every frickin time -.-' How does that make sense if they'd only get feedbacked a hundred percent of the time then? What kind of balance is that? | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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wordd
Australia190 Posts
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blackbrrd
Norway477 Posts
On October 27 2011 17:01 wordd wrote: now reduce storm and fungal. They already did that, remember? | ||
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Nightmer09
Romania16 Posts
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