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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:07 Jinx... wrote: I agree, and to add, shield upgrade is like a bonus. No other race has this upgrade, It should stay the same. How is sheild upgrades just a bonus when all it covers is the other half of your units HP? When you get ground carapace as zerg it adds +1 to all the health! Shields simply cover what armor does not........ | ||
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PraetorianX
Sweden780 Posts
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:27 blamekilly wrote: Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source? Your ignorance of how toss upgrades work just validates that 99% of people bitching in this thread about the proposed changes is QQ for the sake of QQ....... On October 27 2011 02:44 Dreadwolf wrote: Hmm, when are they nerfing Psi Storm radius too? Guess it's okay for Protoss to do massive AoE damage to a Terran army, but not okay for EMP to disable Protoss Shields and spellcasters. and yet another post showing how TL post quality is slowly but surely degrading to the bnet forums.... | ||
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GleaM
United States207 Posts
And to Jimbo: Please more PewPew and less qq good sir. I'm sorry that the ghost got nerfed. But it needed a nerf. The radius was too big TvP where the main problem was. | ||
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[uci] Fizik
United States263 Posts
On October 26 2011 07:50 synergy_sin wrote: Hmm, when are they nerfing Psi Storm radius too? Guess it's okay for Protoss to do massive AoE damage to a Terran army, but not okay for EMP to disable Protoss Shields and spellcasters. Massive... you want massive, look at EMP radius as it is now. Almost 2/3rds of the screen. It just means terran will have to use a couple more ghosts and it will be possible to dodge EMP. I love how all the terran cry for FG/PsiStorm nerf along with their EMP nerf. Take the nerf like men and get better at the game instead. It would be kool if they just changed the whole mechanic to require a nuke, and instead of nuking units, you can send a nuke to explode in the outer atmosphere around a targeted area creating an EMP. It would be scientifically consistent. Of course, there would be a slight delay between target, nuclear launch, and emp. And the radius could stay the same or be larger to compensate. | ||
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GleaM
United States207 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:48 Rorschach wrote: Your ignorance of how toss upgrades work just validates that 99% people bitching in this thread about this proposed changes is QQ for the sake of QQ....... How can people not know that armor upgrade doesn't effect shield??? Wow... | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:50 GleaM wrote: How can people not know that armor upgrade doesn't effect shield??? Wow... The same ignorant people that think toss just to a-move to victory most of their games...... | ||
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UnholyGregor
111 Posts
EMP is even more useless against really fat infestors, that is really worse for TvZ mid/late game. couldnt disagree more with you, 1 ghost cost roughly equivalent of 1 infestor. You're almost guaranteed to wreck 3 or 4 infestors per emp. this is painfully cost effective from the zergs point of view. Ghosts are getting more and more popular in this mu, just look at nestea v mvp in blizzcon if you want to see the horrific shit ghosts do to zerg | ||
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Grani
Germany50 Posts
Really nice to see this changes from Blizzard. And now nerf Snipe for the sake of all the poor Ultras and Broodlords. | ||
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IGotPlayguuu
Italy660 Posts
Now in tvp double forge gonna rape ass... (and maybe triple forge ? XD) | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:57 Grani wrote: T-T-T-Triple Forge!!! Really nice to see this changes from Blizzard. And now nerf Snipe for the sake of all the poor Ultras and Broodlords. I have to side with terran slightly in regards to snipe. With the current metagame terran don't have a whole lot of options to deal with hive tech. Mauraders vs ultras can work and vikings vs broods. Having the ghost/snipe is a good thing, HOWEVER we've not seen enough late game TvZ to really know if there is a problem with it. Something for blizzard to keep an eye on but I enjoy the game more from a spectators POV with snipe in the game........ | ||
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gohbot
United States17 Posts
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exltus
Czech Republic100 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6230 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:49 [uci] Fizik wrote: Massive... you want massive, look at EMP radius as it is now. Almost 2/3rds of the screen. It just means terran will have to use a couple more ghosts and it will be possible to dodge EMP. I love how all the terran cry for FG/PsiStorm nerf along with their EMP nerf. Take the nerf like men and get better at the game instead. It would be kool if they just changed the whole mechanic to require a nuke, and instead of nuking units, you can send a nuke to explode in the outer atmosphere around a targeted area creating an EMP. It would be scientifically consistent. Of course, there would be a slight delay between target, nuclear launch, and emp. And the radius could stay the same or be larger to compensate. Just wanted to add ( the guy a few posts above already covered it a bit ) storm has the same radius as emp. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On October 26 2011 15:10 ACiDCaT wrote: so the upgraded protoss pushes will be more devastating Not necessarily. Look at a 2/2 protoss timing and calculate how much is saved. Negligible, right? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 27 2011 03:11 Puph wrote: Not necessarily. Look at a 2/2 protoss timing and calculate how much is saved. Negligible, right? That extra stalker will be mindblowing. Totally game breaking. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44584 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:54 UnholyGregor wrote: couldnt disagree more with you, 1 ghost cost roughly equivalent of 1 infestor. You're almost guaranteed to wreck 3 or 4 infestors per emp. this is painfully cost effective from the zergs point of view. While I agree with you that EMP is still cost-effective against infestors, I'm pretty sure Snipe is optimal anyway... Why temporarily neutralize them when you can straight-up kill them? | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:27 blamekilly wrote: Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source? It absolutely only affects Protoss units HPs, not their shields. Source: Playing Protoss, rofl. | ||
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Marcuz
31 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44584 Posts
On October 27 2011 03:06 gohbot wrote: Yessss triple forge rushes now viable!! Only one +1 upgrade was changed, and that buff was only a decrease of 50/50. I don't really see how it's now viable all of a sudden (if it wasn't before), but okay  | ||
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