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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 25 2011 23:12 GMT
#601
Next patch we just need to make Ghosts research EMP, then the game might be balanced :D
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MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
October 25 2011 23:13 GMT
#602
Blizzard wasn't going to let the TvP stats from Korea go unnoticed

Protoss gets the buff it needs, Ghosts get slightly nerfed but they'll still be really good, so nobody can complain
Inside.Out
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada569 Posts
October 25 2011 23:13 GMT
#603
what the hell blizz? ground armor level 1 for zerg is 150/150, and now protoss gets level 2 for that?
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
October 25 2011 23:13 GMT
#604
I actually like this. ZvT is really close right now. PvZ is looking up (and this will only narrow that gap more), but I honestly think this will greatly reduce the PvT problems.

Wondering if we'll see a resurgence of the double forge build
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 23:13:45
October 25 2011 23:13 GMT
#605
On October 26 2011 08:11 Kettchup wrote:
While everyone is raving about the EMP change helping Protoss, I'm actually more interested in seeing its effect on late game TvZ where Ghosts counter everything. Hopefully Infestors will actually be usable now against mass Ghost with some decent splitting. Should be more effective at burning ghost energy if nothing else, so that they can't EMP and snipe everything.


I doubt it, I see terrans sniping infesters more often than EMP'ing them.

I genuinely feel bad for you zergs in the late game vs. terran, if you don't have an overwhelming advantage you can't win if the terran knows how to build ghosts.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
October 25 2011 23:13 GMT
#606
upgrade buff seems reasonable to buff gateway units but maybe collosi/immortals or just collosi shouldnt share upgrades....
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
October 25 2011 23:13 GMT
#607
EMP nerf is good, but the upgrade costs are ridiculous, protoss doesn't need any straight up buffs with nothing taken away...it's already an impossibly difficult match with warp prisms and the last batch of buffs(ZvP)
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
October 25 2011 23:14 GMT
#608
nice an EMP nerf! why are protoss weapons getting decreased?
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
October 25 2011 23:14 GMT
#609
On October 26 2011 06:30 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
EMP radius reduced by .5 - will that actually change anything seeing as 3/4 ghosts are enough to blanket an army anyway?


you know the formula for area of a circle?
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Kaxon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States117 Posts
October 25 2011 23:14 GMT
#610
Seems like a pretty big balance change for a minor version number. This should make the double forge strategy even stronger.

Nice to see Ghosts nerfed, although personally I'd rather have Snipe weakened instead of EMP, but then I play Zerg.
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
October 25 2011 23:15 GMT
#611
The most cost effective race with the most cost effective upgrades (affects robo AND gateway) having their cost reduced.

Man, I already had trouble in ZvP.. I know this is for PvT but man.. we were just getting to 50/50 again and now its going to swing the other way. +1 6-8gate timings are killer.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 23:16:39
October 25 2011 23:15 GMT
#612
On October 26 2011 08:15 darkscream wrote:
The most cost effective race with the most cost effective upgrades (affects robo AND gateway) having their cost reduced.

Man, I already had trouble in ZvP.. I know this is for PvT but man.. we were just getting to 50/50 again and now its going to swing the other way. +1 6-8gate timings are killer.


Problem is, the most cost effective race is actually Terran, not Protoss.

Also, costs for +1 upgrades haven't changed, cost for +2 upgrades went down by 25/25, and cost for +3 upgrade went down by 50/50. No, this won't break the matchup.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
pl0x0rz
Profile Joined March 2011
2 Posts
October 25 2011 23:15 GMT
#613
So its a savings 375/375 by the time toss is at 3/3/3? Doesn't seem all that different to me.
YadreWolf
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1 Post
October 25 2011 23:15 GMT
#614
What's Up One More Game!
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
October 25 2011 23:16 GMT
#615
The shield upgrade cost reduction is a very good idea, but the others certainly surprise me a bit. The only good reasoning I can think of for it is to slightly reduce the huge gas consumption rate that protoss has.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 23:17:45
October 25 2011 23:16 GMT
#616
On October 26 2011 08:15 darkscream wrote:
The most cost effective race with the most cost effective upgrades (affects robo AND gateway) having their cost reduced.

Man, I already had trouble in ZvP.. I know this is for PvT but man.. we were just getting to 50/50 again and now its going to swing the other way. +1 6-8gate timings are killer.


1. +1 costs didn't change at all (armor or weapons).
2. I thought Terran was most cost-effective because of marines (and marauders, ghosts, etc. but especially marines)?
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 25 2011 23:17 GMT
#617
Overall Protoss buffs ... I wonder if double forge PvT is gonna come back into style.
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TheChostoProject
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico96 Posts
October 25 2011 23:18 GMT
#618
No mention about solving the severe performance issues that 1.4 introduced???
And a protoss BUFF???

Fail patch.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
October 25 2011 23:19 GMT
#619
On October 26 2011 08:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
Overall Protoss buffs ... I wonder if double forge PvT is gonna come back into style.


Triple forge is going to be the new style :D
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 25 2011 23:19 GMT
#620
On October 26 2011 08:13 EcstatiC wrote:
what the hell blizz? ground armor level 1 for zerg is 150/150, and now protoss gets level 2 for that?


Keep in mind that Zerg Armor upgrades work on 100% of a Zerg ground unit's health, whereas Protoss Armor only works on anywhere from 66% to 2% of a ground unit's health.
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