• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:28
CET 14:28
KST 22:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !8Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle screp: Command line app to parse SC rep files How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1695 users

1v1 Season 4 map pool did change ! - Page 10

Forum Index > SC2 General
983 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 50 Next All
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
October 25 2011 14:08 GMT
#181
Wait, I understand everyone likes Metalopolis, but wasn't it removed because, even with close positions in, it was still terribly imba in favour of Zerg, according to Blizzard's stats? Now it's back, with the close positions gone. Doesn't this mean that the balance issues will be made worse with the new version?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 25 2011 14:08 GMT
#182
On October 25 2011 23:07 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 22:15 T.O.P. wrote:
Already thumbed down
Backwater Gulch
Searing Crater

I don't really hate Typhoon Peaks as zerg because it's not impossible. You can win if you outplay your opponent.

2 close spawn maps now


Ive never noticed anything wrong with typhon but people always complain about it. Anybody care to elaborate on why they dont like it.


As protoss, the natural is open as hell, it's really hard to simcity it against z. Also with horizontal spawns, defending more than 3 bases is quite hard.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Xenomorph
Profile Joined May 2010
United States137 Posts
October 25 2011 14:09 GMT
#183
Thyphon was really hard for me as protoss against zerg. It allowed them to macro up really effectively while leaving me really open for muta/ling play or 3 base mass roach/ling. I dunno I just didn't feel like I could macro enough on that map without being crushed.

Searing was obivous and backwater was horrible against terrans. I am VERY pleased with the map pool. Not 1 map will be vetoed.
Intrepid Traveler
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
October 25 2011 14:09 GMT
#184
On October 25 2011 23:07 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 22:15 T.O.P. wrote:
Already thumbed down
Backwater Gulch
Searing Crater

I don't really hate Typhoon Peaks as zerg because it's not impossible. You can win if you outplay your opponent.

2 close spawn maps now


Ive never noticed anything wrong with typhon but people always complain about it. Anybody care to elaborate on why they dont like it.


Its a labyrinth of chokepoints so basically terrible for any melee unit or any short ranged unit, and a playground of happiness for siege tanks and colossi.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 25 2011 14:09 GMT
#185
What maps should I ban if I'm Terran now?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Mrfishystick
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
October 25 2011 14:09 GMT
#186
Aww, I actually like Typhon Peaks.
Oh well at least I don't have to play on Backwater Gulch, the most annoying PvP and PvT map to play on.
"True warriors do not follow paths, they make them. It is not just their desire, it is their nature." - Nicholas Kerensky
WinteRR
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia201 Posts
October 25 2011 14:10 GMT
#187
I like metalopolis but I don't understand why they bring it back without close-spawns when it got removed for balance reasons previously (because Z was at 60% at all skill levels including close spawn).

Oh well it's still a great map. Overall good changes for zerg hehe.
dgdsg
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany91 Posts
October 25 2011 14:10 GMT
#188
On October 25 2011 23:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What maps should I ban if I'm Terran now?


Metal?
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
October 25 2011 14:11 GMT
#189
On October 25 2011 23:08 Aim Here wrote:
Wait, I understand everyone likes Metalopolis, but wasn't it removed because, even with close positions in, it was still terribly imba in favour of Zerg, according to Blizzard's stats? Now it's back, with the close positions gone. Doesn't this mean that the balance issues will be made worse with the new version?

That was before 1.4, wasn't it?

I'm guessing they think that balance problem is now fixed.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 25 2011 14:11 GMT
#190
On October 25 2011 23:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What maps should I ban if I'm Terran now?



It depends on your playstyle
Wat
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 25 2011 14:11 GMT
#191
On October 25 2011 23:07 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 22:15 T.O.P. wrote:
Already thumbed down
Backwater Gulch
Searing Crater

I don't really hate Typhoon Peaks as zerg because it's not impossible. You can win if you outplay your opponent.

2 close spawn maps now


Ive never noticed anything wrong with typhon but people always complain about it. Anybody care to elaborate on why they dont like it.

Narrow ramps all over the map. Easy 3rd base for Protoss and Terran. The Narrow ramps make sentries, colossus, and tanks really strong on that map.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 25 2011 14:12 GMT
#192
On October 25 2011 23:08 Aim Here wrote:
Wait, I understand everyone likes Metalopolis, but wasn't it removed because, even with close positions in, it was still terribly imba in favour of Zerg, according to Blizzard's stats? Now it's back, with the close positions gone. Doesn't this mean that the balance issues will be made worse with the new version?

Take a look at SC2 Korea for Metal and you'll find Zerg isn't actually that amazing on this map. In fact, I am certain it is a Terran map. It has a gold base, and Terran can deny his opponent's gold. If Terran plays this style, it is very hard for Zerg to win.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
October 25 2011 14:13 GMT
#193
On October 25 2011 23:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What maps should I ban if I'm Terran now?


Whatever maps you feel are difficult for you.

I personally find TvZ on Shattered Temple to be an unpleasant experience, but other Terran players are going to probably veto Tal'Darim Altar and Metalopolis.

Your pick really.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
UniversalMind
Profile Joined March 2011
United States326 Posts
October 25 2011 14:13 GMT
#194
On October 25 2011 23:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What maps should I ban if I'm Terran now?


Prob metal
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
October 25 2011 14:13 GMT
#195
On October 25 2011 23:07 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 22:15 T.O.P. wrote:
Already thumbed down
Backwater Gulch
Searing Crater

I don't really hate Typhoon Peaks as zerg because it's not impossible. You can win if you outplay your opponent.

2 close spawn maps now


Ive never noticed anything wrong with typhon but people always complain about it. Anybody care to elaborate on why they dont like it.


The wide natural combined with the ramp position makes it awkward for Protoss openings, especially against Zerg. Also vertical spawn positions with the rocks in the middle leads to a lot of strong tank and colossus style games. It's also just one of those maps where people will sneak expansions because of the out of the way expansion locations. It's not a terrible map, but it's definitely not my favorite.
Bozaza
Profile Joined December 2010
United States14 Posts
October 25 2011 14:13 GMT
#196
This is amazing, I had all three of those maps vetoed! Thanks blizzard <3
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 25 2011 14:14 GMT
#197
On October 25 2011 23:08 Aim Here wrote:
Wait, I understand everyone likes Metalopolis, but wasn't it removed because, even with close positions in, it was still terribly imba in favour of Zerg, according to Blizzard's stats? Now it's back, with the close positions gone. Doesn't this mean that the balance issues will be made worse with the new version?


Games developed a lot since then, but it still is a map zergs like more yeah.
sAviOr...
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
October 25 2011 14:14 GMT
#198
On October 25 2011 23:09 Mrfishystick wrote:
Aww, I actually like Typhon Peaks.
Oh well at least I don't have to play on Backwater Gulch, the most annoying PvP and PvT map to play on.


Amen.

Forcefields were obnoxious as hell on BWG. TvT wasn't much fun either.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
mFour
Profile Joined September 2011
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 14:16:03
October 25 2011 14:14 GMT
#199
Typhon was by far my best map for TvT.

Other then that it's awesome Metal is back and Backwater is gone.

Got placed into Diamond was well! Pumped!
5/255
CroDeadman
Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia76 Posts
October 25 2011 14:15 GMT
#200
Wait for it...





A w e s o m e ! ! !

Really great changes, thank you Blizzard.
Official bitch of Artanis[Xp]
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV 2025
11:00
Playoffs
Clem vs RogueLIVE!
Creator vs TBD
Scarlett vs Spirit
ShoWTimE vs Cure
WardiTV1388
ComeBackTV 1167
TaKeTV 370
IndyStarCraft 161
Rex159
IntoTheiNu 22
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko377
IndyStarCraft 161
Rex 159
Harstem 155
BRAT_OK 71
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 29996
Calm 4980
GuemChi 2667
Rain 2538
Bisu 2376
Horang2 842
Stork 837
actioN 549
Shuttle 450
Larva 261
[ Show more ]
Mini 259
firebathero 248
ggaemo 204
Mind 135
hero 128
Aegong 102
Killer 98
Zeus 74
JYJ 71
Barracks 66
Snow 66
Hyun 60
Bale 57
ToSsGirL 53
Shinee 41
Mong 35
Sacsri 27
soO 27
sorry 24
zelot 24
Terrorterran 21
910 19
GoRush 13
Yoon 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Shine 12
JulyZerg 11
SilentControl 9
Dota 2
Gorgc3813
singsing3474
qojqva469
XcaliburYe150
League of Legends
C9.Mang0384
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1773
allub273
oskar113
Other Games
B2W.Neo1377
crisheroes380
Fuzer 267
hiko174
XaKoH 118
Trikslyr21
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
OSC
32m
Big Brain Bouts
3h 32m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
The PiG Daily
7h 32m
SHIN vs ByuN
Reynor vs Classic
TBD vs herO
Maru vs SHIN
TBD vs Classic
CranKy Ducklings
20h 32m
WardiTV 2025
21h 32m
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
23h 2m
Ladder Legends
1d 5h
BSL 21
1d 6h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.