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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 01 2012 17:15 GMT
#601
Sure, WoL might have disappointed some of our expectations but let's face the fact. It was the best 100 dollars I've invested in any form of recreational entertainment.... ever.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
March 01 2012 17:18 GMT
#602
Still waiting for a Canadian Collector's Edition link! =] I will pre-order it through you guys if you can provide that.
MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
March 01 2012 17:22 GMT
#603
On March 02 2012 02:13 Like a Boss wrote:
I'm going to have to wait this one out and see what it really brings. Kind of disappointed by many parts of WOL.


what the campaign? who played this game for story? aside from lore nerds.. I know some people care about story and stuff. But really this game is about playing against other players. WC3 had a better story then starcraft imo. most people don't play wow for lore they play it for pvp or pve progression unless you are RP server person...

Balance issues are different compared to the game mechanics. Battle.net 0.2 is the biggest gripe next to some balance issues of races.

fix carriers not make a quick fix and give a retarded 1a muta destoryer
we all hope to be like whitera one day
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 01 2012 17:23 GMT
#604
Where is my US CE Link?
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 17:24:43
March 01 2012 17:23 GMT
#605
On March 02 2012 02:22 MugenXBanksy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 02:13 Like a Boss wrote:
I'm going to have to wait this one out and see what it really brings. Kind of disappointed by many parts of WOL.


what the campaign? who played this game for story? aside from lore nerds.. I know some people care about story and stuff. But really this game is about playing against other players. WC3 had a better story then starcraft imo. most people don't play wow for lore they play it for pvp or pve progression unless you are RP server person...

Balance issues are different compared to the game mechanics. Battle.net 0.2 is the biggest gripe next to some balance issues of races.

fix carriers not make a quick fix and give a retarded 1a muta destoryer

hey.... I enjoyed my campaign and getting all the achievements.... =( leave my canon craving part of myself alone =(

But yeah I WoW for PvE progression.
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MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
March 01 2012 17:35 GMT
#606
i can't grind out that campaign lol i played like the first 5 mission and got extremely bored lol.

though i haven't really played any games which would have a story or something with a story worth playing. -_-' I played bayonetta like what 3 years or ago or whatever.. but that was purely cause who made it and it had a sexy british witch who had guns and stuff, story weak good game play.

Bastion was cute, neat story and steam punky.

Cata ruined wow imo lol for me and a chunk of people. been off of it for a couple years.
we all hope to be like whitera one day
reDDevil7
Profile Joined February 2011
South Africa72 Posts
March 01 2012 19:02 GMT
#607
Do you think they will release a Collectors Edition for the game?
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Spieltor
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
327 Posts
March 01 2012 19:39 GMT
#608
I'll buy HoTs once the price is 15 USD. thats what I think 3 new units are worth at max. they arent even good at making old units, so why reward them?
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Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
March 01 2012 19:52 GMT
#609
On March 02 2012 04:02 r3DD3vil wrote:
Do you think they will release a Collectors Edition for the game?

I'll be shocked if they don't
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
March 01 2012 20:09 GMT
#610
On March 02 2012 04:39 Spieltor wrote:
I'll buy HoTs once the price is 15 USD. thats what I think 3 new units are worth at max. they arent even good at making old units, so why reward them?


Have fun playing WOL with the other 100 remaining nerds while everysingle tournament you watch is HOTS.

I don't even know why we are disgussing whether or not people will buy, this is a starcraft website, and even worse a hardcore site, 99% of the regular viewers will most definetly buy hots, those bitching right now will buy anyways.

U payed 40 bucks for WOL. Let's just compare this to another random game. Let's say you also bought Portal 2 for 40 bucks. You played through portal 2 multiple times, played the coop campaign and some other stuff. And lets say you really enjoyed that game so you came back several times for further playthroughs, even if you add up all of that you probably won't spent 100 hours on portal 2.
Now WoL, let's say the average game takes 10 real minutes and you are kinda of a casual player so you play like 15 games a week. Thats two and a half hour per week. Let's assume you bought the game on release on July 27 that means if this was your average you'd have spent about 430 hours on wol by now.

And given that this is a competitive site I'm sure most users have played a lot more than that, so to honestly bitch about having to pay for hots (any amount really) is just kind of retarded. WoL has brought you more value than almost anything else you could buy for an equal amount of money, so to invest some more for even more valuer over an extended perioud of time is actually pretty much reasonable. Yes I'd have prefered if sc2 would have just come out as one complete game with 3 campaigns etc., but at the end of the day even if both expansions would cost 40 bucks you would have a hard time finding any games for the same amount of money that would give you that many hours.
Grohg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States243 Posts
March 01 2012 20:30 GMT
#611
It's funny how they could charge another $60 and they would be justified in it due to a full campaign and addition to multiplayer content. If 40 bucks is a lot for years of use I have no clue how anyone ever feels justified in buying much of anything. I'll buy ME3 within the week and the $60 I'll shell out will be more than worth it. I won't, however, play it nearly as much as I do SC2. 100 bucks for three years worth of gaming is so cheap. It's quite possibly the cheapest form of entertainment you can get. Pick up a few hours extra on a minimum wage job and it's amazing how fast you can have and extra 40 dollars in your pocket. That's the only time you will ever pay for it.
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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 00:27:59
March 02 2012 00:17 GMT
#612
40 is about what I expected to pay and I think its about right. The campaign will be almost as long, unlike most expansions, and I think quite a bit of money and time goes into the campaign.

That said, I'm really worried about HotS' new multiplayer units. They look either mostly useless (tempest, swarm host) or hugely op (viper, shredder, battle hellion, nexus recall).

I guess that's dangerously close to a post about balance, so I'll cease. Regardless, yay for it being 40$ instead of 60$
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DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
March 02 2012 00:32 GMT
#613
If only if only blizzard could release the date and real price i'd be happy
Tyranous
Profile Joined March 2012
5 Posts
March 02 2012 00:58 GMT
#614
My girlfriend pre-ordered Heart of the Swarm at Game Stop on my birthday on Feb. 28. It costs $65.24. If Blizzard releases some collectors addition I will be more than happy to fork over more for it. For those of you who aren't willing to spend $40, that's kinda sad. I suggest not playing video games at all. Blizzard will be fine without your business.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
March 02 2012 01:13 GMT
#615
On March 02 2012 09:58 Tyranous wrote:
My girlfriend pre-ordered Heart of the Swarm at Game Stop on my birthday on Feb. 28. It costs $65.24. If Blizzard releases some collectors addition I will be more than happy to fork over more for it. For those of you who aren't willing to spend $40, that's kinda sad. I suggest not playing video games at all. Blizzard will be fine without your business.


What a fantastic first post, I must say.

"Anyone who isn't willing to spend $65 on an expansion pack should not play any video games forever and is pathetic."
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 02:49:39
March 02 2012 02:46 GMT
#616
$15?

Motherfuckin' BROOD WAR was $30 in 1998.

$15 buys you 3x horse armor nowadays. Good luck with that.
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 02:53:29
March 02 2012 02:50 GMT
#617
On March 02 2012 11:46 FieryBalrog wrote:
$15?

Call me the next time you see a AAA expansion for $15.

Motherfuckin' BROOD WAR was $30 in 1998.

$15 buys you 3 horse armor nowadays. Good luck with that.


Brood War offered 3 new campaigns.

You know, since we're going down the "Campaigns matter" path. I personally think the campaign is rather a waste of time and shouldn't be considered at all in these discussions since, at the end of the day, all anyone cares about is the multiplayer. However, if people are going to trot around going, "Oh, but you get a full new campaign! It's worth $40!" -- know this. Brood War gave 3 new campaigns and 3 new units per race, and it was still cheaper than this expansion.

I don't mind the price as much, especially since they may lower it. However, what I am worried about is that this game still costs $60 in a lot of places as it stands and by the time this expansion comes out, it could potentially cost $100 to even start playing at the current level. Think about that for a moment: one hundred dollars, just to start playing a game. Do you honestly think that that is going to encourage new players to start in an already dwindling community overall? I hope they lower the price, or they do some sick bundle deal honestly.
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
March 02 2012 02:59 GMT
#618
On March 02 2012 05:09 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 04:39 Spieltor wrote:
I'll buy HoTs once the price is 15 USD. thats what I think 3 new units are worth at max. they arent even good at making old units, so why reward them?


Have fun playing WOL with the other 100 remaining nerds while everysingle tournament you watch is HOTS.

I don't even know why we are disgussing whether or not people will buy, this is a starcraft website, and even worse a hardcore site, 99% of the regular viewers will most definetly buy hots, those bitching right now will buy anyways.

U payed 40 bucks for WOL. Let's just compare this to another random game. Let's say you also bought Portal 2 for 40 bucks. You played through portal 2 multiple times, played the coop campaign and some other stuff. And lets say you really enjoyed that game so you came back several times for further playthroughs, even if you add up all of that you probably won't spent 100 hours on portal 2.
Now WoL, let's say the average game takes 10 real minutes and you are kinda of a casual player so you play like 15 games a week. Thats two and a half hour per week. Let's assume you bought the game on release on July 27 that means if this was your average you'd have spent about 430 hours on wol by now.

And given that this is a competitive site I'm sure most users have played a lot more than that, so to honestly bitch about having to pay for hots (any amount really) is just kind of retarded. WoL has brought you more value than almost anything else you could buy for an equal amount of money, so to invest some more for even more valuer over an extended perioud of time is actually pretty much reasonable. Yes I'd have prefered if sc2 would have just come out as one complete game with 3 campaigns etc., but at the end of the day even if both expansions would cost 40 bucks you would have a hard time finding any games for the same amount of money that would give you that many hours.


Exactly exactly exactly! This is a fucking Starcraft website. Why are people who are obviously into SC2 (simply by the fact they have an account and are posting on TL) quibbling over a price $10 above their expectations? If you love this game like you should shut up and buy it!
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
March 02 2012 03:05 GMT
#619
On March 02 2012 11:59 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 05:09 Lorch wrote:
On March 02 2012 04:39 Spieltor wrote:
I'll buy HoTs once the price is 15 USD. thats what I think 3 new units are worth at max. they arent even good at making old units, so why reward them?


Have fun playing WOL with the other 100 remaining nerds while everysingle tournament you watch is HOTS.

I don't even know why we are disgussing whether or not people will buy, this is a starcraft website, and even worse a hardcore site, 99% of the regular viewers will most definetly buy hots, those bitching right now will buy anyways.

U payed 40 bucks for WOL. Let's just compare this to another random game. Let's say you also bought Portal 2 for 40 bucks. You played through portal 2 multiple times, played the coop campaign and some other stuff. And lets say you really enjoyed that game so you came back several times for further playthroughs, even if you add up all of that you probably won't spent 100 hours on portal 2.
Now WoL, let's say the average game takes 10 real minutes and you are kinda of a casual player so you play like 15 games a week. Thats two and a half hour per week. Let's assume you bought the game on release on July 27 that means if this was your average you'd have spent about 430 hours on wol by now.

And given that this is a competitive site I'm sure most users have played a lot more than that, so to honestly bitch about having to pay for hots (any amount really) is just kind of retarded. WoL has brought you more value than almost anything else you could buy for an equal amount of money, so to invest some more for even more valuer over an extended perioud of time is actually pretty much reasonable. Yes I'd have prefered if sc2 would have just come out as one complete game with 3 campaigns etc., but at the end of the day even if both expansions would cost 40 bucks you would have a hard time finding any games for the same amount of money that would give you that many hours.


Exactly exactly exactly! This is a fucking Starcraft website. Why are people who are obviously into SC2 (simply by the fact they have an account and are posting on TL) quibbling over a price $10 above their expectations? If you love this game like you should shut up and buy it!


I do love this game dearly, but it's more of cautious worry, you have to understand. I'll buy this expansion simply because I love this game and I want it to succeed. However, what I am worried about is that SC2 is quite literally bleeding players, and forcing a $40 price tag on top of a $60 for WoL, is only going to harm this game which I so passionately want to succeed. It's also the fact that Brood War pumped out 3x as much content as this expansion, theoretically, and it was still less than it. I don't want to see something bad happen just because Blizzard is greedy.

I know it's just $10, but there is a massive difference to the average consumer when looking at a $30 and a $40 pricetag for something.
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
March 02 2012 03:08 GMT
#620
On March 02 2012 11:50 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 11:46 FieryBalrog wrote:
$15?

Call me the next time you see a AAA expansion for $15.

Motherfuckin' BROOD WAR was $30 in 1998.

$15 buys you 3 horse armor nowadays. Good luck with that.


Brood War offered 3 new campaigns.

You know, since we're going down the "Campaigns matter" path. I personally think the campaign is rather a waste of time and shouldn't be considered at all in these discussions since, at the end of the day, all anyone cares about is the multiplayer. However, if people are going to trot around going, "Oh, but you get a full new campaign! It's worth $40!" -- know this. Brood War gave 3 new campaigns and 3 new units per race, and it was still cheaper than this expansion.

I don't mind the price as much, especially since they may lower it. However, what I am worried about is that this game still costs $60 in a lot of places as it stands and by the time this expansion comes out, it could potentially cost $100 to even start playing at the current level. Think about that for a moment: one hundred dollars, just to start playing a game. Do you honestly think that that is going to encourage new players to start in an already dwindling community overall? I hope they lower the price, or they do some sick bundle deal honestly.


Aren't we over the whole '1 campaign it's a rip off' garbage by now? If it makes you feel better you can think of HotS as 3 zerg campaigns or WoL as 3 T campaigns. The number of missions is (essentially) the same. The number of new units/changes is essentially the same.

As for cheaper, yes but that was 10+ years ago. Brood Wars was more expensive in today money (~$43).

$40 has been the norm for Blizzard expansions since WC3. It's not going to hurt sales.
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