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On March 02 2012 00:10 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 22:30 david0925 wrote:
lol, people bitch about paying 40 bucks for an expansion but fork over 15 dollars a month for WoW and 25 bucks for each pet/mount
As long as the campaign and free multiplayer is worth 40 bucks to you, buy it. Otherwise, don't
Sure if you wanna do silly comparisons, might wanna check how much content you get for it. An MMO hass nearly has much content in a couple patches then some whole games... Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 00:02 Talin wrote:On March 01 2012 22:30 david0925 wrote:
lol, people bitch about paying 40 bucks for an expansion but fork over 15 dollars a month for WoW and 25 bucks for each pet/mount Yeah, the part you're missing is that people actually get addicted to WoW, because the game mechanics actively encourage and reinforce that addiction, which is why people will pay anything to continue playing and get new stuff for a long time. Game mechanics of a competitive RTS discourage most people from playing it in the first place. Most people can't even get into the multiplayer, those that do get frustrated by it on a daily basis, many get ladder anxiety and actively avoid playing the game. You act like every wow player is addicted to it. Maybe just maybe they think the content is worth the money. I played wow for 4years and amusingly enough it SAVED me money since that was the only thing i played for a while. Was i addicted? No, i could stop when required. Did i played it a lot? Hell yea.
Every addict says they aren't addicted.
Are all WoW players addicted? No. However, if you're paying $180/yr to play a videogame -- you're going to get the most out of that purchase, and I think it's safe to say most WoW players play a bit too much.
Nonetheless, you're missing the point entirely. The entire point of an MMO that runs subscription is to get you hooked so that you keep paying. Denying that is denying a simple truth, WoW is made to addict you so you keep paying them monthly. RTS' are not meant to addict you, especially a game like Starcraft. It's a one time purchase. So comparing them is silly.
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Even if it's $40, it'll be 40 euros for us, which translates to $53.
Compare: In 1998, in Germany, Brood War cost around 40 DM which was about $23 then;today it would be about $32 adjusted for inflation, that's 24 euros.
I probably got half of that wrong, but I was bored.
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Hope it goes down to $29.99 final price.
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On March 02 2012 00:10 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 22:30 david0925 wrote:
lol, people bitch about paying 40 bucks for an expansion but fork over 15 dollars a month for WoW and 25 bucks for each pet/mount
As long as the campaign and free multiplayer is worth 40 bucks to you, buy it. Otherwise, don't
Sure if you wanna do silly comparisons, might wanna check how much content you get for it. An MMO hass nearly has much content in a couple patches then some whole games... Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 00:02 Talin wrote:On March 01 2012 22:30 david0925 wrote:
lol, people bitch about paying 40 bucks for an expansion but fork over 15 dollars a month for WoW and 25 bucks for each pet/mount Yeah, the part you're missing is that people actually get addicted to WoW, because the game mechanics actively encourage and reinforce that addiction, which is why people will pay anything to continue playing and get new stuff for a long time. Game mechanics of a competitive RTS discourage most people from playing it in the first place. Most people can't even get into the multiplayer, those that do get frustrated by it on a daily basis, many get ladder anxiety and actively avoid playing the game. You act like every wow player is addicted to it. Maybe just maybe they think the content is worth the money. I played wow for 4years and amusingly enough it SAVED me money since that was the only thing i played for a while. Was i addicted? No, i could stop when required. Did i played it a lot? Hell yea.
When I say addicted, I don't mean addicted in a junkie "can't-look-away-from-pc" sense.
The game mechanics for WoW (and MMO games in general) are designed in a way to give players things to do and a motivation to do them and reward their progress while keeping the general feel of the game casual enough. And all that while keeping the gameplay mechanics stale and repetitive, and expanding in breadth rather than depth.
There's no way for Starcraft to emulate these mechanics because it's a very much hardcore, competitive game that requires commitment to learning the game, practicing execution and doesn't reward progress very well. It's not something that casual players can take for entertainment.
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On March 02 2012 00:38 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 00:10 Assirra wrote:On March 01 2012 22:30 david0925 wrote:
lol, people bitch about paying 40 bucks for an expansion but fork over 15 dollars a month for WoW and 25 bucks for each pet/mount
As long as the campaign and free multiplayer is worth 40 bucks to you, buy it. Otherwise, don't
Sure if you wanna do silly comparisons, might wanna check how much content you get for it. An MMO hass nearly has much content in a couple patches then some whole games... On March 02 2012 00:02 Talin wrote:On March 01 2012 22:30 david0925 wrote:
lol, people bitch about paying 40 bucks for an expansion but fork over 15 dollars a month for WoW and 25 bucks for each pet/mount Yeah, the part you're missing is that people actually get addicted to WoW, because the game mechanics actively encourage and reinforce that addiction, which is why people will pay anything to continue playing and get new stuff for a long time. Game mechanics of a competitive RTS discourage most people from playing it in the first place. Most people can't even get into the multiplayer, those that do get frustrated by it on a daily basis, many get ladder anxiety and actively avoid playing the game. You act like every wow player is addicted to it. Maybe just maybe they think the content is worth the money. I played wow for 4years and amusingly enough it SAVED me money since that was the only thing i played for a while. Was i addicted? No, i could stop when required. Did i played it a lot? Hell yea. When I say addicted, I don't mean addicted in a junkie "can't-look-away-from-pc" sense. The game mechanics for WoW (and MMO games in general) are designed in a way to give players things to do and a motivation to do them and reward their progress while keeping the general feel of the game casual enough. And all that while keeping the gameplay mechanics stale and repetitive, and expanding in breadth rather than depth. There's no way for Starcraft to emulate these mechanics because it's a very much hardcore, competitive game that requires commitment to learning the game, practicing execution and doesn't reward progress very well. It's not something that casual players can take for entertainment.
Why always the hate for WoW? I always get this hipster vibe of people that think because it's so popular it must be the worst thing ever. Starcraft expands in breath rather than depth too (more tournaments) and I bet a lot of people here spend lots of time reading a forum and watching streams, something more passive than playing a MMO with friends.
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....BLIZZARD WHY YOU NO CE!!!!! give me my HotS WoW pet and my Unique SC2 Portraits!!!
eh... I doubt it... but then again EVERY WoW expansion had a CE... so.... one can only hope?
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On March 01 2012 23:55 Candadar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 23:52 Stiluz wrote:
Funny that people are bitching about the price. A new awesome campaign and potentially hundreds of hours of entertainment. I'll be waiting for the collectors edition anyway. That's not the point. Unless they do a really good package deal, this is going to be really hard for newer players to get into. $59.99 for SC2, and $39.99 for this expansion. That's $100 you have to shell out to start playing, assuming the price stays the same. When the last expansion comes out, that number only increases. I'll definitely be buying this either way, but still.
I'm guessing they'll have some kind of bundle... I'd say around $60 for both HotS and WOL would be fair.
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On March 02 2012 00:58 Blasterion wrote:
....BLIZZARD WHY YOU NO CE!!!!! give me my HotS WoW pet and my Unique SC2 Portraits!!!
eh... I doubt it... but then again EVERY WoW expansion had a CE... so.... one can only hope?
WoL had a CE.
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On March 02 2012 01:03 muzzy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 23:55 Candadar wrote:On March 01 2012 23:52 Stiluz wrote:
Funny that people are bitching about the price. A new awesome campaign and potentially hundreds of hours of entertainment. I'll be waiting for the collectors edition anyway. That's not the point. Unless they do a really good package deal, this is going to be really hard for newer players to get into. $59.99 for SC2, and $39.99 for this expansion. That's $100 you have to shell out to start playing, assuming the price stays the same. When the last expansion comes out, that number only increases. I'll definitely be buying this either way, but still. I'm guessing they'll have some kind of bundle... I'd say around $60 for both HotS and WOL would be fair.
but it's been 1-2 years since WoL don't tell me in that time you couldn't get together 40 bucks..... look there's a new campaign with 20 something missions and new multiplayer options don't tell me that's not enough for you to pay a measly amount of 40 bucks. Skip a day at the bar and you got 3 times that money.
All the work went into HotS and server upkeep doesn't warrant your one time 40 bucks? Dude it's just 40 bucks.
PS Come on release the CE already I want to know what's inside!
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On March 02 2012 01:06 OrangeSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 00:58 Blasterion wrote:
....BLIZZARD WHY YOU NO CE!!!!! give me my HotS WoW pet and my Unique SC2 Portraits!!!
eh... I doubt it... but then again EVERY WoW expansion had a CE... so.... one can only hope? WoL had a CE.
Yes, but it wasn't an expansion.
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On March 02 2012 01:06 OrangeSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 00:58 Blasterion wrote:
....BLIZZARD WHY YOU NO CE!!!!! give me my HotS WoW pet and my Unique SC2 Portraits!!!
eh... I doubt it... but then again EVERY WoW expansion had a CE... so.... one can only hope? WoL had a CE.
Yes and I have that..... but you see I am saying HotS,
Since....
WoW-CE (Did it? not sure lol.... I started during BC)
BC had a CE
Wrath had a CE
Cata also had a CE
HotS should have a CE
FYI I never bought a WoW CE =/ might have to do with the monthly fees but w/e
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On March 02 2012 01:09 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 01:06 OrangeSoda wrote:On March 02 2012 00:58 Blasterion wrote:
....BLIZZARD WHY YOU NO CE!!!!! give me my HotS WoW pet and my Unique SC2 Portraits!!!
eh... I doubt it... but then again EVERY WoW expansion had a CE... so.... one can only hope? WoL had a CE. Yes and I have that..... but you see I am saying HotS, Since.... WoW-CE (Did it? not sure lol.... I started during BC) BC had a CE Wrath had a CE Cata also had a CE HotS should have a CE FYI I never bought a WoW CE =/ might have to do with the monthly fees but w/e
D3 is going to have a CE and i know its not an expansion but you can pretty much expect a CE edition for any blizzard game now. It is easy money for them imo.
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On March 02 2012 01:12 OrangeSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 01:09 Blasterion wrote:On March 02 2012 01:06 OrangeSoda wrote:On March 02 2012 00:58 Blasterion wrote:
....BLIZZARD WHY YOU NO CE!!!!! give me my HotS WoW pet and my Unique SC2 Portraits!!!
eh... I doubt it... but then again EVERY WoW expansion had a CE... so.... one can only hope? WoL had a CE. Yes and I have that..... but you see I am saying HotS, Since.... WoW-CE (Did it? not sure lol.... I started during BC) BC had a CE Wrath had a CE Cata also had a CE HotS should have a CE FYI I never bought a WoW CE =/ might have to do with the monthly fees but w/e D3 is going to have a CE and i know its not an expansion but you can pretty much expect a CE edition for any blizzard game now. It is easy money for them imo.
Then where is the HotS CE =(
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On March 02 2012 01:08 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 01:03 muzzy wrote:On March 01 2012 23:55 Candadar wrote:On March 01 2012 23:52 Stiluz wrote:
Funny that people are bitching about the price. A new awesome campaign and potentially hundreds of hours of entertainment. I'll be waiting for the collectors edition anyway. That's not the point. Unless they do a really good package deal, this is going to be really hard for newer players to get into. $59.99 for SC2, and $39.99 for this expansion. That's $100 you have to shell out to start playing, assuming the price stays the same. When the last expansion comes out, that number only increases. I'll definitely be buying this either way, but still. I'm guessing they'll have some kind of bundle... I'd say around $60 for both HotS and WOL would be fair. but it's been 1-2 years since WoL don't tell me in that time you couldn't get together 40 bucks..... look there's a new campaign with 20 something missions and new multiplayer options don't tell me that's not enough for you to pay a measly amount of 40 bucks. Skip a day at the bar and you got 3 times that money.
All the work went into HotS and server upkeep doesn't warrant your one time 40 bucks? Dude it's just 40 bucks. PS Come on release the CE already I want to know what's inside!
Wait, what?! Is this a typo or are you saying you spend $120 in a single night?
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On March 02 2012 01:52 o29 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 01:08 Blasterion wrote:On March 02 2012 01:03 muzzy wrote:On March 01 2012 23:55 Candadar wrote:On March 01 2012 23:52 Stiluz wrote:
Funny that people are bitching about the price. A new awesome campaign and potentially hundreds of hours of entertainment. I'll be waiting for the collectors edition anyway. That's not the point. Unless they do a really good package deal, this is going to be really hard for newer players to get into. $59.99 for SC2, and $39.99 for this expansion. That's $100 you have to shell out to start playing, assuming the price stays the same. When the last expansion comes out, that number only increases. I'll definitely be buying this either way, but still. I'm guessing they'll have some kind of bundle... I'd say around $60 for both HotS and WOL would be fair. but it's been 1-2 years since WoL don't tell me in that time you couldn't get together 40 bucks..... look there's a new campaign with 20 something missions and new multiplayer options don't tell me that's not enough for you to pay a measly amount of 40 bucks. Skip a day at the bar and you got 3 times that money.
All the work went into HotS and server upkeep doesn't warrant your one time 40 bucks? Dude it's just 40 bucks. PS Come on release the CE already I want to know what's inside! Wait, what?! Is this a typo or are you saying you spend $120 in a single night?
You might call that excessive. I call it Tuesday.
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On March 02 2012 01:52 o29 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 01:08 Blasterion wrote:On March 02 2012 01:03 muzzy wrote:On March 01 2012 23:55 Candadar wrote:On March 01 2012 23:52 Stiluz wrote:
Funny that people are bitching about the price. A new awesome campaign and potentially hundreds of hours of entertainment. I'll be waiting for the collectors edition anyway. That's not the point. Unless they do a really good package deal, this is going to be really hard for newer players to get into. $59.99 for SC2, and $39.99 for this expansion. That's $100 you have to shell out to start playing, assuming the price stays the same. When the last expansion comes out, that number only increases. I'll definitely be buying this either way, but still. I'm guessing they'll have some kind of bundle... I'd say around $60 for both HotS and WOL would be fair. but it's been 1-2 years since WoL don't tell me in that time you couldn't get together 40 bucks..... look there's a new campaign with 20 something missions and new multiplayer options don't tell me that's not enough for you to pay a measly amount of 40 bucks. Skip a day at the bar and you got 3 times that money.
All the work went into HotS and server upkeep doesn't warrant your one time 40 bucks? Dude it's just 40 bucks. PS Come on release the CE already I want to know what's inside! Wait, what?! Is this a typo or are you saying you spend $120 in a single night?
....Yeah I do, it's completely normal isn't it? It's not like you got out to the bars every night or anything
On March 02 2012 01:56 mbr2321 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 01:52 o29 wrote:On March 02 2012 01:08 Blasterion wrote:On March 02 2012 01:03 muzzy wrote:On March 01 2012 23:55 Candadar wrote:On March 01 2012 23:52 Stiluz wrote:
Funny that people are bitching about the price. A new awesome campaign and potentially hundreds of hours of entertainment. I'll be waiting for the collectors edition anyway. That's not the point. Unless they do a really good package deal, this is going to be really hard for newer players to get into. $59.99 for SC2, and $39.99 for this expansion. That's $100 you have to shell out to start playing, assuming the price stays the same. When the last expansion comes out, that number only increases. I'll definitely be buying this either way, but still. I'm guessing they'll have some kind of bundle... I'd say around $60 for both HotS and WOL would be fair. but it's been 1-2 years since WoL don't tell me in that time you couldn't get together 40 bucks..... look there's a new campaign with 20 something missions and new multiplayer options don't tell me that's not enough for you to pay a measly amount of 40 bucks. Skip a day at the bar and you got 3 times that money.
All the work went into HotS and server upkeep doesn't warrant your one time 40 bucks? Dude it's just 40 bucks. PS Come on release the CE already I want to know what's inside! Wait, what?! Is this a typo or are you saying you spend $120 in a single night? You might call that excessive. I call it Tuesday.
wait what? a night at the bar is easily 100 something + tips isn't that in the norms?
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This game would be worth it at $40, $50, even $60. Can't wait!
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On March 02 2012 00:32 TheTurk wrote:
Hope it goes down to $29.99 final price.
Blizzard will not let people pay that little now that they are as big as they are now. this isn't a wow expansion thats been out for a year
I also have a North America account and a taiwanese account to play on korea, but the taiwan account is much cheaper lol. soo i am gonna be shelling out extra anyways lol
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it means that i got to pay 80$ for starcraft i have no WoL?
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I'm going to have to wait this one out and see what it really brings. Kind of disappointed by many parts of WOL.
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