EPTIn HOTS, low pylons no longer power high ground - Page 22
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ChineseWife
United States373 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:29 cLutZ wrote: Blizz's Strategy with Protoss balance is: They used a cool mechanic, NERF! Flux Vanes, Gone. Warp In Storms, Gone. High Ground Warp In, Gone. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll just axe Warp Gate all together, otherwise we might see Blink removed next, you know because blinking on to the high ground is unfair to all those 1 Rax FE's with only a single 25 Mineral bunker.....can't have Terran losing. | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On October 24 2011 20:40 nihlon wrote: Hotbid will miss his cannon rushes. well...maybe...because after all, the entire game is a FARCE compared to BW, right Hotbid?  IMO not entirely sure how to feel about the change. Warp prisms should be seen a lot more now, which is still a very credible threat due to their buff. | ||
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Moldwood
United States280 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:35 deadmau wrote: If they did this, but fixed toss, I wouldn't mind. Strange how they keep beating a dead horse though lol. "Fixed Toss"? cool story bro, care to elaborate? I hadnt heard about this til just now and it sounds like a pretty frustrating change. Sad attempt to promote warp prism use? i dont know. I just dont know. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:52 RaiKageRyu wrote: oh well I guess this makes the pylon radius like creep then.... I'm pretty sure Creep Tumors on the High Ground bleed over onto the low ground. Not 100% though, and I can't really test it right now. | ||
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FatalFlux
United States6 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:51 Shiori wrote: if they changed that i don't think protoss would ever win a game against zerg on a macro map. we NEED to ffe. So what you're saying is that Zerg is OP?  | ||
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Mijati
United Kingdom44 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:45 FatalFlux wrote: So here's a question. What's Blizzard's reason for having the Forge only require a Nexus? Seems like altering that would be a better way to combat cannon rushing. Engineering Bay and Evolution Chamber also don't require Barracks/Spawning Pool so they'd have to change it for all 3 races if they did this change (although Protoss are actually the only ones who build a forge before gateway, so wouldn't do anything to Zerg/Terran) | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:12 Grumbels wrote: They will eventually add an AoE damage cap to EMP to fix it, don't worry about that. Yes, this change does remove gimmicky protoss play. But hello? Have you ever played protoss? Gimmicky play is what the race is all about and it's what I enjoy about it. Forcefielding ramps, blink stalkers all-ins, proxy DTs, you might hate those tactics, but I'm happy they're in the game as they reward ingenuity. Even the new expansion units are purely gimmicky, do what gives Blizzard? Just nerf offensive warp-ins by adding vulnerability to units that are warping in instead of making pylons impossible to use in fun and clever ways. No. Did you even watch Blizzcon? They said flat out that it feels way too random if they start introducing World of Warcraft mechanics into Starcraft 2, eg. aoe dmg cap. They're going to just decrease the radius of EMP, which is really the better way to do it. Dustin Browder said it best - under the World of Warcraft aoe damage cap rules, if a ghost EMP's an Immortal with zealots around it...that would introduce randomness which has no place in strategy game. If I choose to EMP that immortal, that EMP had better hit the immortal, assuming my aim is correct. | ||
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Tikan
France42 Posts
If anyone can bring forward a situation where they NEED their pylon to have high-ground warp-in when they aren't doing some kind of cheese or all-in then I'll reconsider Every time I'm given opportunity, I put down a pylon on the low ground while my obs is coming from robo, thus allowing me a single harass with a round of warpin (pylon is taken down pretty quickly after that) if I dont essentially need it to be at home . I dont call it a cheese or a all-in... | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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Omsomsoms
Croatia194 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On October 25 2011 01:18 BronzeKnee wrote: Cheese is part of this game. I don't mind Blizzard nerfing cheese, but don't just nerf Protoss cheese, nerf Terran and Zerg cheese too. Last time I checked, there were plenty of GM Terran players who cheese every game (Pride and NamchiR anyone?) and Terran cheese remains unchanged. Even then, the cheesy GM Protoss players like WBC can't one base all the time. Wrong, terran cheese was nerfed multiple times. longer build time on bunker. longer build time on Barracks. | ||
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Serashin
235 Posts
One of the best paid E-Sport games getting fucked so hard just by terrible dessicions. | ||
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Treva
United States535 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:55 VirgilSC2 wrote: I'm pretty sure Creep Tumors on the High Ground bleed over onto the low ground. Not 100% though, and I can't really test it right now. Creep tumors do not bleed over onto the low ground | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10377 Posts
Also I wonder why they wait until HotS to change this... as well as wait until HotS until releasing their new maps. They really want us to wait for HotS to get this new stuff don't they  | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:00 D_K_night wrote: Wrong, terran cheese was nerfed multiple times. longer build time on bunker. longer build time on Barracks. Right, because 40 Seconds on Warp Gate, Pylon Range Reduction, and Pylons not allowing high Ground WarpIns is the same as a 5 Second addition to Barracks build time that actually just brought it in line with the Gateway and Spawning Pool build times. | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
On October 25 2011 01:10 Trowabarton756 wrote: Well guess I won't be getting HoTS........Blizz really has no fucking clue and Im sick of it tbh. The fact that you're even caring enough to post, means you'll be getting it. The opposite of love is not hate. It is indifference. something you should have known by now | ||
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WhiteraCares
Sweden339 Posts
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