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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:43 DarKcS wrote: Cmon. low-highround cannon rush was always inbalanced. hurray as a zerg  WHAT??? the only way a protoss can cannon rush the zerg is to place it behind zerg building natural (and that would only happen when they went hatch first) | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
this is an awful change. Awful. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:45 MrBitter wrote: Really silly change. Completely eliminates a lot of Protoss strats that involves warping in on the high ground. (void ray builds, some phoenix plays, and obviously early gateway cheese) Why do this? I think you might have answered your own question. Whether or not removing these tactics is a good idea is debatable, but removing them is almost certainly blizzard's goal. | ||
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shadowboxer
United States224 Posts
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:46 DW-Unrec wrote: No, it doesnt remove new tatics from the game. They are bringing back the PvP. Its obvious that blizzard does not want 4 gate vs 4 gate all the time. The ramp nerf already made people start using builds like 2 gate robo. This will make FF 100% safe vs protoss 4gate. Already was; and this is just a kick in the balls after you shot Protoss in the head: It does nothing for any match-up but weaken our offensive attacks and still does nothing for 4gate Altar | ||
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:47 shadowboxer wrote: Only thing it changes are extremely abusive cannon rushes which can still be performed regardless of this. This is a great change. No it doesnt, I listed several scenarios on how this will affect non cheese games. And PvP will still be 4 gate vs 4 gate on Taldarim, which is the only map still with a 4 gate or die problem. | ||
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
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Couguar
Russian Federation54 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
It limits agression and punishing greedy builds. | ||
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
Seriously, Blizzard has to compensate for this... | ||
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NormandyBoy
France200 Posts
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:52 NormandyBoy wrote: I understand the problems for simcity it will cause, but it's kinda annoying to lose a game when you perfectly scouted a 4gate : you built the right number of bunkers, but there is a patch of fog of war you forgot to scout in your main, so suddenly, the whole protoss army is in your main killing your shit and your bunkers are useless... Well, you fucked up...? It should be possible to be punished for a FE, you know? | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:51 Couguar wrote: I do not understand. Will pylon at highground provide power to low or not? if not this is terrible... i want to build my units on lowground while my pylons are on my main Supposedly they do. I think this is an ok change, but they should give pylon its old range back then... | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
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taldarimAltar
973 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6177 Posts
On October 24 2011 18:52 NormandyBoy wrote: I understand the problems for simcity it will cause, but it's kinda annoying to lose a game when you perfectly scouted a 4gate : you built the right number of bunkers, but there is a patch of fog of war you forgot to scout in your main, so suddenly, the whole protoss army is in your main killing your shit and your bunkers are useless... well that is your scouting that lack, not the pylon that is overpower  I really hope they don't go forward with this | ||
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Crissaegrim
2947 Posts
Yea, GJ Blizz. | ||
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FlaminGinjaNinja
United Kingdom879 Posts
No more high ground warpins in 2v2 ZP teams 4 gate isn't as strong I like the first one since cannon rush's are by far the most annoying thing in the game to deal with. Not sure about it though, guess we'll just have to wait for the beta | ||
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demonik187
United States575 Posts
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