EPTNew HotS Units/Abilities in Blizzcon - Page 44
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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jonaada
Iceland49 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:57 Daralii wrote: He's joking that Thorzain will have to change his name. Ergo, Warhoundzain. I know that,I'm trying to make it sound german. | ||
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
Well, it gave examples like cloak. I know it copies abilities, but if I have 1/1/1 for protoss ground units and 0/0/0 for air unit, what if I copy a tank? what if I copy a banshee? id guess 1/1 and 0/0 respectively, but sounds unfair if I had upgraded sheilds because its useless. or would it copy their upgrades? (so their strategy against replicator army would be to not upgrade?) | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
Unit specific ones, not weapon/armor ones. I assume the weapon/armor upgrades will go off the replicant's upgrades. | ||
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IvoryWaveCrest
United States5 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:56 tmtx wrote: I wonder what tier will replicator be. Reminds me of Banshees from Warcraft 3, which were tier 3. It doesn't look like it's meant to be massed to just steal an entire army, it'll have to be inefficient enough that only units like Viper or Siege Tanks or Infestors, etc, are worth replicating. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:54 setzer wrote: Did YOU read the description? I doesn't necessarily imply the unit worker units only DISRUPTS them from mining. It could be the same thing as using stasis on worker lines in BW which would achieve absolutely next to nothing compared to killing the workers Depends on the duration though. You could stop somebody from mining gas for quite a while. You can only do that now if you kill the refinery or ALL THE WORKERS :D If you just kill scvs it hurts em more but they can put new ones on this. This could be a great anti-gas unit | ||
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ColtCommando
United States51 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:57 Drey wrote: Why is everyone talking about Blizzard removing units ? They never did it in BW or W3 and I doubt they will now. Did they say something in an interview ? because it seems pretty stupid to lose some units to gain others; some people are bound to get angry if they do remove. they stated several times that units are gonna be removed. where have you been? | ||
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
New Zerg units look great. From what I understand, they're similar to the defiler and lurker in Brood War. Terran's already very versatile and with the addition of these two units should be even more so. For Protoss, there's still no way to deal early game AOE, which means we'll still be vulnerable to the 1/1/1 and other early pushes. No AOE will also mean that the Colossus will remain as it is. The Replicant is cute but for those saying we'll be able to do hellion drops, it's a targeted ability that replicates one unit. The Oracle seems to overlap with the role of the phoenix in terms of scouting and economic disruption. Again, it doesn't seem to be able to do huge damage unlike the reaver. New capital ship will only come into effect in the lategame if at all. Sigh. Maybe I'm being pessimistic, and I probably am, but I've been holding on to the expectation that HoTS will fix Protoss. | ||
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features
Ireland160 Posts
Marauder is definitely being removed, Thor may remain as a huge damage tank, but with a different role. I also really like the dynamic of the "shredder" when you think about the replicant and sky defiler! The shredder stops firing when a friendly unit is in range, therefore, a replicant can trick it to seize fire and the viper can drop a marine on to it, allowing an attack to commence!  Way to add as much micro to the game as possible Bliz! Also I can see the carrier co existing with the Tempest, afterall the tempest doesn't appear to do anything too substantial to air armoured or buildings. | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:57 Drey wrote: Why is everyone talking about Blizzard removing units ? They never did it in BW or W3 and I doubt they will . Did they say something in an interview ? because it seems pretty stupid to lose some units to gain others; some people are bound to get angry if they do remove. Yes they said in several interviews that they arent shy about removing units from multiplayer, this coming from the head honcho D. Bowder himself. The reasoning is that they dont want a bloated game with units overlapping each other. The units from WoL will still be in the single player game. Ie the WoL Singleplayer that will not change. | ||
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Elldar
Sweden287 Posts
Hmm, just a thought but phoenix and tempest seem to similar. Do you guys think they will remove phoenix? ps. I really hope they change the names of swarm host and replicant, those names are just horrible. pss. All names seem lame except for viper and battle hellion. Edit. Sorry changed my mind I read the description on tempest more carefully and it said capital ship so it will either replace carrier or perhaps mothership. | ||
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Leah
Germany33 Posts
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Mephit
United States34 Posts
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S2Lunar
1051 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:58 Roe wrote: on the viper tooltip, it says "can grant detection to units" does that mean it fills the observer role(probably because they're most likely taking out overseer) or that it gives detection to other units via spell? Yep. They (Blizzard) have stated they don't like the Overseer as a unit and want to provide a new unit to replace. | ||
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ePBuckets
Canada207 Posts
here are my thoughts: Viper = flying defiler, i'm not liking the "pull" ability... sounds like vortex for zerg, i can see this being super imba with fungal. also, if the overseer was taken out for this (because it has detection)... omfg. Swarm Host = wicked! I'm a protoss player, and the added units look interesting. Replicant: i assume we'll need more than one "fuse", and that it comes out of robo, so we'll see how much use they actually see (targetting spell casters, seige units, flying units etc would be good but maybe off a second robo mid-late game?) Oracle: this one confuses the fuck out of me. its flying so from stargate, but its a spellcaster? we'll see how it goes when launch hits. Tempest: well i remember the original tempest was a carrier lol, but i like this. i hope that it doesnt replace the mothership though... Warhound: interesting, both thor and warhound have splash AA, makes me wonder if thor was removed? nice that they gave them a TvT unit for vs mech... even vsP i guess. Battle Hellion: well we called it right? lolol. Shredder: wtf? when's HOTS out? | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
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LiamTheZerg
United States523 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:05 hijt wrote: well the swarm host is the unit we expected isnt it? Swarm host seems retarded. Only useful to create fodder for tank lines imo. Viper looks amazing, though i wonder how the pull will work and if it will solely be a caster or if it will have a weak attack. Terran gets Goliath V2, Hellion X2, making it that much better against lings if trapped*sigh*, and another AoE unit that will clean up what tanks dont own. Toss, i feel got short-changed. The replicants stupid, i'd rather just build another attacking unit, unless it can copy spellcasters. The flying harass thing is weird, seems like Overseer with a new skin and weaker but faster regenning contaminates. Tempest... Not even gonna bother. Unless they get rid of corruptors/colossi, it won't be used. | ||
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