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New HotS Units/Abilities in Blizzcon - Page 42
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Thrillhouse
United States27 Posts
So, any news around here? | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:52 Ventil wrote: This is what strikes me odd. Instead of doing this, why not just add Goliaths, Firebats and Defilers (and Lurkers <3)? The community wants 'em, and obviously Blizzard sees the potential of such unit within the SC2 unit arsenal (given that those new units basically behaves just as their BW counterparts), so why dance around the matter like this? I think the issue is that the SC2 team is not the same as the BW one, and they don't wanna just copy BW because it was good, they wanna try and create their own thing so they can be like "look we made this!" The issue, is I don't think they will ever make anything as balanced as BW was and will keep refusing to take things from it and will try and make SC2 "their own" | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:51 bonifaceviii wrote: Finally terran gets goliaths back. Seriously blizzard, just call it a goliath. Haha true that. Am i stupid to not wanting T units removed?! I just love diversity. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Zerg: Not sure yet. Both new units have their own niche and don't really overlap that much with existing ones. I guess the detection property in the Viper might overlap with Overseers, but since the former is likely going to be a hive/late lair unit, and the latter is important for early/mid game scouting, I doubt they'll replace one for the other. As for the Swarm Host, it's a siege unit that probably morphs from the hydralisk. Zerg already has Broodlords for siege, but I don't really see the need for one to go for the other to exist. They might remove the latter just because Blizzard themselves have expressed that Broodlord/Infestor was a little too powerful. We'll see. Protoss: Carriers will most likely be replaced with the Tempest. Don't really see the point of having both in the game. The Replicant sounds like it'll replace Hallucination so that'll probably go. The Oracle is an interesting one. Not sure if it will be a stargate unit or a robo unit to be honest. I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be an ungraded form of the observer, but that's just my thought. Terran: The Warhound most likely will replace the Thor. I don't really see a place for the latter with this new unit being introduced. Battle Hellion will obviously act as Firebats, but will its introduction change anything else? Not entirely sure tbh. The Shredder is a strange one. By its description it sounds like a mobile mini-Planetary Fortress that doesn't work with nearby friendly units. I guess it'll be mainly used to fortify your expansions and other locations together with turrets and sensor towers. It might also be useful to take when attacking, but will be harder to deploy effectively. I don't really see a unit being removed for this to come in. | ||
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kcbgoku
Poland156 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:50 Novalisk wrote: I like the Viper, Shredder, and the Tempest. Rest of the units seem out of place... Exactly. Hellion transformation I can survive. But seriously, look at warhound - wth is that thing... I don't know how swarm host is going to function but for now I don't rly like it. Oracle and replicant seem little weird but we will see. | ||
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Unkie
Denmark47 Posts
The Tempest seems cool, because mutas are frikin' hard to deal with, if you haven't scouted them early enough, however i would like for it to be a replacement for the colossus - hopefully it's not another hero unit like the mothership (which I wouldn't be sad to see dissapear. But with the description it seems to replace the carrier, and might be somewhat of a niche unit. The Oracle is certainly interesting if its harassing capabilities are powerful enough. I don't think it being able to reveal what a structure is making is a big deal, because you should be able to have a good idea about this from scouting the build - maybe in pvz you can see if the zerg player is about to do some insane tech switch all of a sudden. The replicator I have no idea about whether it's going to be awesome, it seems to depend alot on its cost and range. I'm guessing it won't be worth it to replicate most units, but it might be worth to replicate some tier 2 & 3 units. Terran units seem a bit unimaginative, while Zerg units look powerful as hell, as if lings weren't nasty already, now they get dark swarm as well XD | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
tl;dr Zerg got essentially BW units, I am filled with envy | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
terran units look sooo boring ps: i didnt expect a leak thread to keep open :D | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:53 Fionn wrote: Poll: Will the Thor be removed? Yes (74) No (3) 77 total votes Your vote: Will the Thor be removed? Poll: Will the Marauder be removed? No (55) Yes (20) 75 total votes Your vote: Will the Marauder be removed? Poll: Will the Void Ray be removed? No (58) Yes (13) 71 total votes Your vote: Will the Void Ray be removed? Poll: Will Carriers be removed? Yes (50) No (21) 71 total votes Your vote: Will Carriers be removed? Goodbye, sweet, sweet Thor. Hello to Warhoundzain. Makes him sound German. | ||
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Cosmos
Belgium1077 Posts
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RogerChillingworth
2842 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:54 ElusoryX wrote: the whole game will change man :/ that's a good thing. | ||
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Versioned
United Kingdom73 Posts
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:54 Quotidian wrote: because zerg players will suddenly forget how to magic box, right? And its not like viper might help against that? It can fly with the muta. | ||
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SlimeBagly
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potmilk
Canada87 Posts
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Diab
Denmark320 Posts
 Zerg unit seems amazing compared to the rest tho | ||
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tmtx
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On October 22 2011 01:48 Bagi wrote: The tempest is a CAPITAL SHIP, its clearly there to replace the useless carrier. Agreed. Loving the Tempest in looks and function, I think the Oracle replaces the Observer and is built from the Robo, can fly and is meant to fulfill the Protoss lack of early-midgame harassment. I'm loving that! The Replicant seems REALLY gimmicky to me - it's just like "hey, we nerfed Neural Parasite to the ground - let's give it to Protoss but make it the primary ability and have the caster fly!" Sure, it might have some EPIC micro moments (a gaggle of Ghosts, clone one and EMP them all - WIN!), but I don't see it as a core unit but more of a fringe one like the Dark Archon. I reckon the Replicant will be replaced before HotS launches, or else it will just be unused in most games, or maybe used vs specific strategies (mech -> clone seige tanks, depending whether the new Zerg units are massive, maybe the Shredder? Turning Terran's AoE against them - nice!). I guess we'll find out  Overall, very please. I especially like the Viper (re-cast Defiler FTW!) and the Swarm Host design, but it's the execution that matters. And I want that Tempest in a wall-paper for my desktop | ||
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