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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On October 24 2011 22:24 Yaotzin wrote: Ah OK didn't realise. In that case since they switch off, send in one beefy unit that can take the hit (collo or something) to go kill it. If they reinforce it switches off. Well tanks can reinforce it from behind it, out of the pylon-range storm. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On October 24 2011 22:24 Yaotzin wrote: Ah OK didn't realise. In that case since they switch off, send in one beefy unit that can take the hit (collo or something) to go kill it. If they reinforce it switches off. stalkers, hydras, and anything further than that will outrange and take out shredders easy. swarm host supposedly can also take out shredders, unsure about viper roaches are also pretty decent at taking out shredders | ||
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IllegalAlien
United States8 Posts
This would allow templar tech units to be in the game before they normally would be. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
Storm ignores armor, the shredder... I don't know, but since it is a factory unit it could have a standard attack susceptible to attack and armor upgrades. In that case, 20dps mean nothing... one "wave" of 20 damage once a second is very different to 4 waves of 5 damage every second. The former is good against roach/hydras, the latter melts lings/banes but does nothing to roaches. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 24 2011 22:42 Big G wrote: The shredder could be balanced for sure, since a slight adjustment to range or firerate can make its role very precise. Storm ignores armor, the shredder... I don't know, but since it is a factory unit it could have a standard attack susceptible to attack and armor upgrades. In that case, 20dps mean nothing... one "wave" of 20 damage once a second is very different to 4 waves of 5 damage every second. The former is good against roach/hydras, the latter melts lings/banes but does nothing to roaches. I looked like the former from the panel demonstration, all is changable though, they would make sick zoning tools though especially for siege lines | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
David Kim said that the Warhound is good against every protoss unit except Chargelots The Battle Hellion is basicly Designed to kill Chargelots. How is Toss supposed to handle Warhound+Battle hellion Armies? and they said T has too much already. Why does T need two new units that are basicly designed to kill Protoss? | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:13 sc2holar wrote: I really dont get it. David Kim said that the Warhound is good against every protoss unit except Chargelots The Battle Hellion is basicly Designed to kill Chargelots. How is Toss supposed to handle Warhound+Battle hellion Armies? and they said T has too much already. Why does T need two new units that are basicly designed to kill Protoss? I can think of 1 unit that is neither Bionic nor Mechanic, and that is Archon. oh yeah and air units, Warhounds are probably liftable too, | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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Raven068
United States90 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:13 sc2holar wrote: I really dont get it. David Kim said that the Warhound is good against every protoss unit except Chargelots The Battle Hellion is basicly Designed to kill Chargelots. How is Toss supposed to handle Warhound+Battle hellion Armies? and they said T has too much already. Why does T need two new units that are basicly designed to kill Protoss? It might be a response to the new units they added in for the other races. Still I agree the logic doesn't quite follow for it. I wouldn't get too bummed about it though; there's bound to be some stuff that gets changed before the game goes live. (Especially if they run a beta for HOTS multiplayer.) | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:40 Yaotzin wrote: If warhound isn't massive then hellion/warhound is trash because of forcefields. If it is....we'll see in Beta :p Do we really want protoss to become even more dependant on the Sentry? the Warhound currently has a range of 7. So i dont see how forcefields can be abused against them. Not to mention, if toss is forced to mass Sentries, there goes all the gas and they wont be able to afford any of their new units whose are all very gas heavy. | ||
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:13 sc2holar wrote: and they said T has too much already. Why does T need two new units that are basicly designed to kill Protoss? This is what I don't get as well. They said that T is overwhelmed with options right now, and then Z got 2 units and lost one, P got 3 units and lost 2, and T got 3 units and lost 0. One thing about Terran is that when their unit works well, it works REALLY well, but it always has a huge gaping weakness. Siege tank for example can do nothing about 3 zerglings nearby, though it can make up 10x its cost in the right position. Hellions rule against light units, but roaches or stalkers completely nullify them. In WoL Thor and Marauder broke this tradition by being REALLY good against certain types of units, and still pretty damn good against everything else. It looks like Warhound is doing this too (though it might be too early to tell). | ||
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mrlie3
Canada350 Posts
I have nothing against Star Wars (big fan!) but come one, this is Starcraft, and Terran is a badass race with massive explosions and army-like units. When I saw the Warhound pew-pewing a missile against Siege Tanks, I had to give out a sarcastic laugh. PLZ CHANGE WARHOUND LOOKS!!!! btw idc about the balance atm since this is pre-beta phase. People should chill out a bit! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46670 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:40 Yaotzin wrote: If warhound isn't massive then hellion/warhound is trash because of forcefields. If it is....we'll see in Beta :p Trash? I doubt you could call it trash if it's going to rape anything that's mech. It's still anti-Protoss. Ghosts aren't massive either lol Protoss can temporarily stop workers from mining off a few mineral patches... and Terran gets shredder drops? Don't really see how that's fair... | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:56 mrlie3 wrote: Please for the love of god Blizzard, I hope you redesign the Warhound!!! Right now it doesn't seem like the unit fits into the theme of Starcraft and it looks more like something from Star Wars! =( I have nothing against Star Wars (big fan!) but come one, this is Starcraft, and Terran is a badass race with massive explosions and army-like units. When I saw the Warhound pew-pewing a missile against Siege Tanks, I had to give out a sarcastic laugh. PLZ CHANGE WARHOUND LOOKS!!!! btw idc about the balance atm since this is pre-beta phase. People should chill out a bit! yes i agree, the ground attack looks riduculous | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:13 sc2holar wrote: I really dont get it. David Kim said that the Warhound is good against every protoss unit except Chargelots The Battle Hellion is basicly Designed to kill Chargelots. How is Toss supposed to handle Warhound+Battle hellion Armies? and they said T has too much already. Why does T need two new units that are basicly designed to kill Protoss? Immortals? | ||
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