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On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL?
No, its because the protoss changes are underwhelming and the terran stuff way to powerful considering what terran already has.
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On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL?
You cant be serious about that. The reaper change is kinda wayne and the Thor change is the most retarded thing in the whole addon. I was happy they removed the mothership, but then i heard they did the same thing to the thor and was like wtf? Other than that i like the new terran units(shredder ftw), their design is still quite lame though.
And as a zergplayer i really kinda feel for the protoss guys, because id be pretty pissed seeing these new units.
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On October 22 2011 10:33 SuperYo1000 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:31 -y0shi- wrote:
One thing:
If you kill SCVs it wont even matter at some point. But if you seal their minerals?
FU MULE, TRY TO MINE THAT :@ .....dude....i never thought of that....epsecially effective when terran drops 8 mules at a newly created expo This is going to create a whole new level of terran bm
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yeah, sure. The ff is pretty easy to break if you have units around.
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You people realize that without sentries protoss would lose every single game ever right? Also I love how people complain that there aren't enough "micro intensive" units in sc2 like there were in broodwar that really rewarded players for properly using them, and in the same post they want to take away one of the few we have, the sentry.
I do feel very sorry for zerg that their detection is going to be harder to get, and that their crappy corruptors get some lame new ability instead of a real buff.
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Anybody know what units the swarm host spawns? Is it going to spawn infested terran or something else?
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I think the Thor announcement is a stepping stone to putting terra-tron in the game.
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On October 22 2011 10:38 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Anybody know what units the swarm host spawns? Is it going to spawn infested terran or something else?
something similar to a broodling
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On October 22 2011 10:36 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:33 SuperYo1000 wrote:On October 22 2011 10:31 -y0shi- wrote:
One thing:
If you kill SCVs it wont even matter at some point. But if you seal their minerals?
FU MULE, TRY TO MINE THAT :@ .....dude....i never thought of that....epsecially effective when terran drops 8 mules at a newly created expo This is going to create a whole new level of terran bm LOL, im gonna invest all my gas into these things (they are aparantly really really fast, faster than speed warp prisms) and then loose to random shit because i have no AOE units, but fuck, its worth it
Its just a thought, also helps against greedy goldbases.
The problem is that protoss has soo much shiny fancy cool stuff already, the problem is that we have no means of protecting it. And here we are with 3 new shiny fancy units :/
Only thing I really love are the new nexus abilitys, those are great for protoss super-lategame.
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On October 22 2011 10:05 rcg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:50 Ballistixz wrote:On October 22 2011 09:47 Eisenheim wrote:On October 22 2011 09:46 Andytaker wrote:On October 22 2011 09:44 sc2holar wrote:
Can the replicant only Clone one unit at the time?
i really dont see how they can be cost effective if thats the case. Clone Infestor= Deathball+Fungal trolololol^^ Replifestor + HT => Trolololo. sigh this is what im talking about. u guys do know that vipers make any and all spell casters useless right? so replicating a infestor wont do anything to the deathball as long as u can get some clouds on it. ur better off replicating a viper then an infestor. Replicating a viper to stop vipers.... I like it.
no, u replicate a viper to stop broodlord/infestor shinanigans that tosses love to complain about so much. the viper cloud reduces all ranged atks to 1 and prevents the casting of any energy based skills. or u can use the replicated viper to pull the broodlords under ur stalkers for easy target firing...
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On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL?
No it's because of the protoss whiners who expected massive, across the board buffs to their incredibly, irreparably underpowered race.
Sorry guys but when there's people in the thread asking if the new toss units are 'a sick joke' then imo it's a bit pathetic.
I really don't think the problem with protoss is the gateway units. I think they're all very strong used correctly. Sue me, but it seems Blizzard agrees, protoss don't need a major buff to their T1 units.
Be happy with one thing - seems the long awaited ghost nerf is on the way.
As for people not liking the terran units, it's probably the other two races indignant that the already very well rounded T is getting even more stuff to play with x)
EDIT: btw this
2. Mass Zealots late game
MM micro can alleviate it a bit but they might need more options
pleases me greatly. Maybe Terran is pretty good vs toss but fuckin' zealots man. Fuckin' late game zealots.
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On October 22 2011 10:38 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Anybody know what units the swarm host spawns? Is it going to spawn infested terran or something else?
A new unit - Locusts.
90 hp, 16 damage and a cooldown similar to an unstimmed marine.
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On October 22 2011 10:38 Dungaurd wrote:
You people realize that without sentries protoss would lose every single game ever right? Also I love how people complain that there aren't enough "micro intensive" units in sc2 like there were in broodwar that really rewarded players for properly using them, and in the same post they want to take away one of the few we have, the sentry.
Try to be unbiased .... we don't want to make protoss weaker, we want them to be more interesting. Sentries and Colossi are the problems making Protoss boring and blizzard did nothing to address that in the Blizzcon panels, ontop of that the new units announced for Protoss are also boring.
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On October 22 2011 10:37 Yosen3002 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL? You cant be serious about that. The reaper change is kinda wayne and the Thor change is the most retarded thing in the whole addon. I was happy they removed the mothership, but then i heard they did the same thing to the thor and was like wtf? And as a zergplayer i really kinda feel for the protoss guys, because id be pretty pissed seeing these new units.
yeah, its a bit puzzling. Protoss early game weak. Give protoss more late game units.
And the Oracle ability seems a bit contrived---
Toss QQing that there are so many variants of 1/1/1 and they're relatively unscoutable until robo and you don't know the composition --> lets give toss a unit that is more expensive/later than an obs and can see what units are being made in terran structures
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On October 22 2011 10:37 Yosen3002 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL? You cant be serious about that. The reaper change is kinda wayne and the Thor change is the most retarded thing in the whole addon. I was happy they removed the mothership, but then i heard they did the same thing to the thor and was like wtf? Other than that i like the new terran units(shredder ftw), their design is still quite lame though. And as a zergplayer i really kinda feel for the protoss guys, because id be pretty pissed seeing these new units.
Its like someone went 'What does protoss need.... I know, more ways to be an obnoxious cunt'.
No, no that is definitely not what protoss need. Phoenix, sentries, void rays, prism allins are all obnoxious and annoying as hell --- they needed solid units not more flimsy shit that can create wins after which your opponent wants to punch you in the face for being such an annoying bastard.
Also reaper change just made them pretty much useless vs zerg... No damage to buildings means reaper bunker rushes are 100% dead.
Gonna be annoying as shit vs terran tho, they run in, kill a marine, run out with red hit points, come back full --;
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i cant wait to play tvz all day 
edit-LOL jinro your a boss
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On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL?
Terran concepts are sweet, but the units look stupid.
And all of Protosses units scream OP. Imagine Collo Tempest O_O. Zerg units are perfect, except for the pull ability, and the nerfed detection.
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On October 22 2011 10:40 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:37 Yosen3002 wrote:On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL? You cant be serious about that. The reaper change is kinda wayne and the Thor change is the most retarded thing in the whole addon. I was happy they removed the mothership, but then i heard they did the same thing to the thor and was like wtf? And as a zergplayer i really kinda feel for the protoss guys, because id be pretty pissed seeing these new units. yeah, its a bit puzzling. Protoss early game weak. Give protoss more late game units. And the Oracle ability seems a bit contrived--- Toss QQing that there are so many variants of 1/1/1 and they're relatively unscoutable until robo and you don't know the composition --> lets give toss a unit that is more expensive/later than an obs and can see what units are being made in terran structures
Well they acknowledge that 1/1/1 is OP and I expect that there are balance changes coming up that will affect the units involved. The new units don't have to be anti-1/1/1 for Blizzard to rebalance the build.
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On October 22 2011 10:31 -y0shi- wrote:
One thing:
If you kill SCVs it wont even matter at some point. But if you seal their minerals?
FU MULE, TRY TO MINE THAT :@
Patch 2.0.1
Calling down a mule shatters mineral shield.
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On October 22 2011 10:37 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL? No, its because the protoss changes are underwhelming and the terran stuff way to powerful considering what terran already has.
Ah so its a balance commentary(protoss underwhelming because they seen as weak atm, terran improvements hated because they are seen as OP right now). I wish people wouldn't vote like this when havn't even played the beta yet, vote on concept. I personally love the new units, the tempest + the oracle work together like a superpowered corsair. I also think the replicant will be incredibly powerful in the right hands. Imagine using a pdd against maruaders?
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On October 22 2011 10:42 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:40 caradoc wrote:On October 22 2011 10:37 Yosen3002 wrote:On October 22 2011 10:34 Disquiet wrote:
Why don't people like the protoss + terran units, I think they are cool, I especially like the reaper change and turning the thor into a true super unit. Is it just because there are more zergs on TL? You cant be serious about that. The reaper change is kinda wayne and the Thor change is the most retarded thing in the whole addon. I was happy they removed the mothership, but then i heard they did the same thing to the thor and was like wtf? And as a zergplayer i really kinda feel for the protoss guys, because id be pretty pissed seeing these new units. yeah, its a bit puzzling. Protoss early game weak. Give protoss more late game units. And the Oracle ability seems a bit contrived--- Toss QQing that there are so many variants of 1/1/1 and they're relatively unscoutable until robo and you don't know the composition --> lets give toss a unit that is more expensive/later than an obs and can see what units are being made in terran structures Well they acknowledge that 1/1/1 is OP and I expect that there are balance changes coming up that will affect the units involved. The new units don't have to be anti-1/1/1 for Blizzard to rebalance the build.
right. It's pretty clear that 1/1/1 won't be an issue at all just because the game wil be so drastically different.
but the oracle ability to see what is building seems like they're saying 'okay, lets fix the 1/1/1' -- it makes me wonder at how deep the design team's understanding of the game is.
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