EPTNew HotS Units/Abilities in Blizzcon - Page 170
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GoldenH
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
Also, another ground to air splash damage unit (from the factory) for terran? That must mean thors are being removed then right? Either way I'm happy to see mech is going to be more durable (with the battle hellion) for terran. I'm not sure how I feel about the new protoss unit also being a capital ship... I would rather have it be a nearly equivalent cost to the void ray, or simply be a flying spellcaster. Edit: Also the pull on the flying zerg unit (viper) seemed to have ridiculous range... it will make collosus useless against them. And the burrowing zerg unit that spawns units... meh. I guess it depends how it works, but it seems like that will be hard to balance in different situations, so I feel they will be very weak in the later game, but stronger early on. | ||
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Paladia
802 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:00 McFeser wrote: What about medivacs? That might lead to some unique strategies. Many Protoss units cannot be healed. It is mainly for zealot but a 200/200 medivac that is easily killed and has to stay in melee range to heal the zealot isn't of much use. Replicate is indeed a fun ability and unit, but the cost at the moment is too high. As for the Oracle, that Preordain ability seems like one of the most useless abilities they could think of. Costs energy and allows you to see what they are researching? In pretty much no circumstance do you not already know what they are researching by just looking at the building. Give it detection instead, as now Protoss is even more forced to go Robo every single game (due to burrowed banelings). Not to mention that mutas will have detection (due to the viper) and just snipe your observers before you know it, so your mineral lines will be even more doomed. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:55 Pr0wler wrote: Guys play WoL while still you can. This expansion will just brake the game... IDK what Blizzard are thinking, but I just can't see it working. Dusting Browder said that that e-sport game must be simple and easy to understand, well THAT(I'm not sure if its C&C or RA2 or WC3) doesn't fit anymore. Oh what an amazing point. You're are so absolutely right. Blizzard does have a long running track record of broken games that are unplayable due to balance issues. They obviously don't know what they are doing. I'm not sure how they have such a large following given the fact that all of their games are so terrible and broken. Clearly they fucked up again, and once again nobody will buy or play their ridiculously unfair and broken game. I wish they had people that know how to make games. -_- | ||
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Crisco
1170 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:00 Maxie wrote: Replicants, see's tank, gets shot in the face by tank. Protoss fucked. Unless you can do some absurd copying with observers giving the replicant twice the LoS as usual, the tank's range should be able to shoot the replicant in the face, if it's sieged. It was said that it can transform into anything within vision | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:04 theBizness wrote: Somewhere, Hongun staring into his crazy juice with tears brimming in his eyes. Yeah wtf, people were finally using it more competitively and it gets axed for some other stupidly expensive air unit with even less utility. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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Defrag
Poland414 Posts
But one question about Ultralisk charge - can it be used up/down the cliffs?  | ||
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Crisco
1170 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:05 Grummler wrote: Troll, starts trolling, tell him he is wrong. Troll fucked. And thats why you are wrong: its at 1:40 it's been stated that the replicant can transform into anything you have vision of | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
Oracle can warp buildings away to stop attacks on your own structures, or stop research for enemy structures Oracle can see research or production of enemy structures Replicant can transform into non massive units Mass recall now available on Nexus Recalled units are unable to move for a few seconds Warhound is good at killing siege tanks, but has a short range You can only have ONE THOR ON THE FIELD AT A TIME, but it becomes BIG AGAIN LIKE IN ALPHA/BETA Thor attack and health increased Instead of air attack, Thor gets a massive bombardment skill Bombardment requires a skill similar to siege mode, this requires a fusioncore and an armory Battle Hellion has higher health and shorter range Ghost cloak changed and now spends a specific amount of energy, lasting for a certain period of time Ghost cloak is no longer an on/off skill Battlecruiser gets a cooldown skill called "limit reactor"(?) that boosts movement speed Reaper loses d8 charge attack Reaper gains a HP recovery skill Viper inserts parasite into friendly units to make them detectors Corruptor loses corrupt and gets a new skill called "absorb"(?) that damages enemy structures and turns them into resources Banelings can move burrowed Hydralisks gain a speed upgrade No more overseers From Reddit | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Strayline
United States330 Posts
Terran has the most units and the most flexibility: 3 units added none removed. Protoss has the 2nd most units (not going to argue if P or Z is more flexible. I have an opinion but it's debatable, unlike for T): 3 units added 2 removed. Zerg has the fewest combat(ish) units: 2 added 1 removed. Almost everyone agrees the corrupter needs to go and it's still in with an ability that I can't really see mattering for Zerg (making money isn't Z's problem--honestly I would rather have corruption). Mothership out just as people are finally starting to use it. I guess I was expecting T to have some of their openers removed (like the bashee or something) but instead they seem to be trying to make the reaper viable too. Also does T really need another zoning ability? The shredder seems like a mobile mine of sorts and I can just see sitting behind a line of Shredders >> bunkers >> tanks outside my nat and kekekeing to victory. Holding ground just wasn't something they needed to get better at. None of the above says anything about balance (I'm a little nervous about putting Zerg mobile detection behind another building but it's not like Blizz is going to overlook this if you can just make DTs and win every game)... that will get worked out... but from a game design perspective I really don't get what the plan is here. On the plus side, I think the P harass unit is actually a pretty good idea assuming it's worth it. P really does need to be able to slow down Z and T a little and I also like the umbra thing on the viper. Dark Swarm was awesome and having it's cousin back should make the game much more exciting. I have no clue how the replicant will work. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
Tempest: Solve none of the weaknesses of the Carrier (Unless the ground attack is even more dps than the Carrier) while also not being a good response to mass muta which is where the +dmg against light and splash helps. 300/300 75 second build time, have fun never being built because you solve even less of a purpose than Carriers. This is idiotic. 75 second build time is lightyears faster than the carrier, it flies faster than the carrier, and aoe makes it really good against Mutas/Vikings, and mass air in general. It basically seems like a giant corsair, which if anything could make it too good against mass muta. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
150/200 for the Oracle, and having it come from the Stargate instead of the robo, is nice imo. I like the cost, the abilities and the location so far. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
OH BOys Terran/Protoss BEWARE Because there's gonna be a TON of New Strategies/Cheeses in HOTS LOL | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:07 Crisco wrote: It was said that it can transform into anything within vision hmmmm. IMO it would be worth it to build one replicant just to copy an SCV for auto-repair. Almost every single protoss unit can be repaired, and repairing colossi would be absolutely amazing. | ||
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rpgalon
Brazil1069 Posts
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
all nexus's get a free mothership over it . i used to rush motherships against zerg to counter muta. mutas strength is their mobility, and mass recall countered mutalisks nicely and allowed me to defend 4+ bases however now against zerg every single nexus gets a free mothership.... every nexus can use mass recall holy crap mutas will be dead against protoss completely | ||
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