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SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
October 21 2011 20:56 GMT
#3321
On October 22 2011 05:51 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:38 HowardRoark wrote:
I feel they should remove infestor now. Too much bad vibes of War3 with so many Z spell casters, and it overlap with Viper.


Too many Z spellcasters? Its the same number as before. They removed the totally useless spellcaster (overseer), and exchanged it with a spellcaster that actually does something. And how does infestor and viper overlap? They have syngergy actually. One locks units down, the other prevents units in that area from firing ranged weapons. One can pull enemy units over to your army, the other can safely mindcontrol it. Suddenly the tanks are up on your cliff firing down on the terran army :p


Not too many spellcasters, too many spells. Having infestors + vipers is insane without some infestor nerf
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
October 21 2011 20:56 GMT
#3322
On October 22 2011 05:55 Pr0wler wrote:
Guys play WoL while still you can. This expansion will just brake the game... IDK what Blizzard are thinking, but I just can't see it working.
Dusting Browder said that that e-sport game must be simple and easy to understand, well THAT(I'm not sure if its C&C or RA2 or WC3) doesn't fit anymore.

Blizzard should hire you, you are simply a genius.
quote unquote
hangarninetysix
Profile Joined August 2010
263 Posts
October 21 2011 20:57 GMT
#3323
They're not even trying to hide it anymore.

It's Red Alert in space. Sigh.
Glacial
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:58:15
October 21 2011 20:57 GMT
#3324
On October 22 2011 05:46 Daedra wrote:
If the replicants are LoS based it would be pretty ridiculous, I feel that will change. Just getting sight of the enemy workers allow you to steal a Zerg or Terran's tech


To be honest I can't really imagine that actually being very effective. As far as I am aware, BW had mind control and you never really saw worker stealing outside of BGH and FASTEST MONEY MAP GOGOGO. It would cost too many resources to invest in their tech and it'd put you miles behind. Unless you are already massively ahead anyway...
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
October 21 2011 20:57 GMT
#3325
The warhound makes sense guys. It looks like it's made from spare parts and Raynors Raiders are not made of money. They took what they could find to make a goliath to help against anti air <3
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 21 2011 20:57 GMT
#3326
On October 22 2011 05:41 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:39 Whitewing wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:38 Teoita wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:36 kcdc wrote:
The new nexus abilities are a million times better than chronoboost. PvZ expansions will be super-easy with the arc shield. Recall will allow your slow units to leave your base in early game. Nobody will spend energy beyond the first few on chronoboost.

It's easy to see how the new abilities will be used in PvZ and PvP, but it's less clear how good they'll be in PvT.


I'm not so sure. Not using chrono might end up costing you a lot of econ, so it will probably be about balancing between chrono on probes and tech, and shield/recalls.


Arc shield is supposed to be pretty weak.


It seems like arc shield's goal is help secure your nat though, so if it turns out to be too weak it can easily be tweaked.


I actually think the arcshield makes FFE vs early pool and 6 pool's easier. From what I've heard it's roughly equivalent to a marine. For a forge FE if you save chrono, should have roughly 2 chronoboosts available when 6 pool hits with 2 buildings up so if you time chronoboosts and pull probes, you could probably delay the onset of the lings long enough to get a couple cannons up.

As for 6pool, the higher level players would continue as normal, while the lower ones save the second chrono to shoot zerglings.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
October 21 2011 20:57 GMT
#3327
What happens if two Vipers grab each other at exactly the same time? French kiss?
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
October 21 2011 20:57 GMT
#3328
On October 22 2011 05:56 Capped wrote:
Replicants, see's tank, makes tank. Terran fucked.


LOL yeah that part of the Preview was funny --- all of a sudden 5 replicators turn into siege tanks and kill the rines
Never GG MKP | IdrA
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
October 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#3329
Anyone remember Kiwikaki's use of mass recall against Stephano? That thing's gonna be so OP when you don't even need a mothership for it.
SnowK
Profile Joined June 2011
United States245 Posts
October 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#3330
On October 22 2011 05:53 Ksquared wrote:
Burrow move banelings will give me nightmares. T_T


They're like invisible creepers.
"Its like someone went 'What does protoss need.... I know, more ways to be an obnoxious cunt'" - Liquid`Jinro
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
October 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#3331
On October 22 2011 01:08 flodeskum wrote:
I really dislike the name 'viper'. That is all.


Agreed.

On another note, I hope the viper is NOT spire tech. That's far too long to go with spore crawler only detection
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
October 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#3332
Personally as a protoss, I'm happy that zerg got cool units, because thanks to the replicant, what's theirs is ours.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
October 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#3333
On October 22 2011 05:58 blamekilly wrote:
Anyone remember Kiwikaki's use of mass recall against Stephano? That thing's gonna be so OP when you don't even need a mothership for it.


It recalls units to the nexus. Not to anywhere.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
October 21 2011 20:59 GMT
#3334
So everything else is staying the same? or Wat
ponyo.848
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
October 21 2011 20:59 GMT
#3335
I am really excited for this now, I really think most of these units look brilliant and I like the change to the Thor :D :D The zerg units look really cool, and the protoss units look like they would take the most time to get used to.
Serenity
Jerome
Profile Joined February 2011
25 Posts
October 21 2011 20:59 GMT
#3336
what is new units going to matter, if every tournament is decided by a bunkerrush?
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 21 2011 20:59 GMT
#3337
Oracle's ability sounds like a joke. Stop mining... temporarily stop a building from constructing... YAY... Whatever happened to units with attacking abilities?


Protoss has units that attack, but it doesn't have is viable harass. A unit that can shut down an entire mineral line for 45 seconds with the push of a button, that can ALSO get rid of static defense, fulfills the harass role much better than anything Protoss currently has.

I'm super psyched for the Oracle, definitely looks the best of the new Toss units.

Also, does anyone know answers to the following questions about Replicants:
Can they target air units?
Can they "re-replicate"? That is, once your replicant becomes a tank or whatever, is it just a tank from then on? or could you turn it back and then turn into a sentry later on?
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
theaxis12
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
October 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#3338
On October 22 2011 05:46 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:44 theaxis12 wrote:
As a zerg player i really like the new units and abilities, but WTF is with removing the overseer.

Zerg just doesn't get to scout now? Not cool, not strategic.


You can get overlord speed just as quickly as overseer.


UMMMM 17 sec overseer vs 60 sec speed not as fast. Not to mention that you almost invariably lose the speed ovi and the overseer can scout with energy- changeling.
Shut your mouth and put your head back in the clouds.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
October 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#3339
Does the corruptor's channeling thing work on friendly structures?

Can you just lol and attack your own buildings for free money? Even if you kill it, the buildings are worth less than the hit points they have...
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#3340
The warhound looks kinda cool. LOL.
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