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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45002 Posts
Why? Protoss isn't going to have that much energy early on, and they're immobile as hell as it is (compared to the other races)... so Protoss still needs to be careful not get caught off guard early on. In the late game, it would be nice to have in case a few units are caught out of position (or like Kiwi's blink harrass.) | ||
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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MindRush
Romania916 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:30 wildstyle1337 wrote: counter mutas ? it costs 300/300 need stargate/fleetbacon, you will build this only in late game, zerg dont build mass muta in late game to many changes for me, remember bw changes no removed units just added 2 for each race in fact they added 2 for terran and zerg and 3 for protoss: medic + valkyre = terran lurker + devourer = zerg dark templar + dark archon + corsair = toss | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
to me, siege tank seems like one of the few units that is viable to be replicated, cuz it brings something unique to the toss army, in other cases mostly it will be ridiculously cost ineffective | ||
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:52 ZAiNs wrote: Another reason for Terran to not make Tanks versus Protoss  . Even then though, is it really worth it to spend 200/200 on something so situational and fragile?Well at least we will be able to replicate stim marines ^^ | ||
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Vaapad
Norway171 Posts
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:53 Kaiwa wrote: I'm so happy I play Zerg now... We get the coolest stuff   ahhhahah Protoss and Terran Tears are so Delicious... It's awesome seeing them QQYes my Zerg Brother For the SWARM! | ||
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:46 Fishgle wrote: You can get overlord speed just as quickly as overseer. Wait what? Is ovie speed now hatch tech? | ||
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jyuj
Australia103 Posts
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
Dusting Browder said that that e-sport game must be simple and easy to understand, well THAT(I'm not sure if its C&C or RA2 or WC3) doesn't fit anymore. | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:50 Defrag wrote: Siege tanks... replicate 5 siege tanks, get 5 sentries, good luck rushing into protoss army with siege + colossus + force fields. Somehow, all the ideas for decent replicator use assume that the Protoss has infinite gas available... Seriously guys, Protoss tech and units are expensive as is, you won't have 1k/1k to blow on cutesy shit like stealing infestors or tanks unless you're way ahead. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:45 Yamulo wrote: But how many units are actually worth replicating for a unit that is 200/200 and can't copy massive units? An SCV. | ||
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Kanuck
Canada50 Posts
"oh you want a lurker, well this is just your lucky day, i have swarm hosts" "a goliath you say? how about a slightly used warhound? its not as pretty, but we have it" | ||
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iNotZerg
United States16 Posts
It reminds me of the sentries force field where you can split up units...except this is a bit stronger. I dont expect this to be used as much as everyone say it's going to be. Depending on the cost of the viper, we might not even see a lot of vipers out on the field, but it's def gonna force more ghosts out on the field. I'm still not sure how i feel about the swarm host. Concept is there, and it has it's place as a defensive unit, just like the lurker, but depending on how the unit they spawn has a good amount of hp or not. Faster hydra speed, tier 3 banelings that can move underground, charge ultras. All useful. The oracle is a pretty awesome unit. All 3 of it's spells are useful. The ability to see what tech your opponent is building can provide good scouting info on a potential timing attack, or to even prevent them from making a specific unit. The entomb spell...is just so good. 45 seconds of no mining. How long does a mule last again Replicator, IMO is a pretty good unit also. From what we see so far, it can copy a unit from farther than seige range. I could see it being used against terran as a protoss version of a contain, or replicating an infestor for some quick fungals. Those terran units...the transformer hellion, is still gonna be a very good unit against zerg. Zerglings will always be the zerg mineral dump and aoe ranged weapon against light is never a bad idea. Zergling runbys is gonna be a bit harder now, thanks to the durability of the Trans-hellion. The Warhound...is strictly gonna be used for TvTs and TvPs. Break seige lines, take care of stalkers, and that super thor...But i think the role overlaps a bit with a few of the other units, like..vikings. The shredder..geez. Shredder drops, hold and block expansions, xelnaga towers. Terrans now have map control. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Sajaki
Canada1135 Posts
On October 22 2011 05:43 SiegeFlank wrote: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/hots-multiplayer-protoss-first-impression/ Really good article posted here that puts the new protoss units into better perspective. After reading, this... damn. And I thought Zerg got the most out of this expansion. Orcales and Replicants are such awesome units. Imagine a player drops a large army into your base. Phase out the buildings with your oracles until you mass recall your army back to the nexus to deal with the drop. And with replicants, become a copy of an enemy SCV, escape with a warp prism, and a few minutes of building later, you have Protoss MULEs. So much strategic potential with these new units. Alot of those changes are terrible. Replicants at 200 / 200 early game? replicate a sentry (50/100) for emergency FFs? Turn it into an immortal (250/100?) Just buy a immortal. Doesn't work on massive? What unit am i gonna replicate worth 200/200? (Other then ghost ofc). Oracle's ability sounds like a joke. Stop mining... temporarily stop a building from constructing... YAY... Whatever happened to units with attacking abilities? Oh right attacking abilities. A capital ship with AoE air (yay) and a single attack to ground. It costs 300/300... uh... ok. Seems the least gimmicky of them all... Truly disappointed with each protoss unit here... The only one that actually feels like it will get any use is the replicant... but for 200/200 that does nothing for toss early game... and its inability to target massive is rediculous when you consider the infestor... which not only aquires an enemy unit but removes that very unit from the toss player... AND costs less. Oh and there is also that tongue thing from the viper. Disappointing... | ||
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
A banshee? | ||
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Ksi
357 Posts
200/200 for MARINE TECH! | ||
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