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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 18 2011 16:05 GMT
#1201
It looks a lot like a phoenix, the wings(just pointing forward instead of sideways), the engine(or whatever the thing at the back is lol)...difference is that it looks thinner and has those three spikes. Looking at the energy ball I think the attack is AoE. ^^

I can't wait for the reveal.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
meltingmykohchoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
166 Posts
October 18 2011 16:05 GMT
#1202
GROSS!!! unless its something w/ recall )))))
"HeRp DeRp"
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
October 18 2011 16:06 GMT
#1203
On October 19 2011 01:01 ondik wrote:
with this unit added it's pretty safe to assume they will remove VR/Phoenix/Carrier(most likely), right?


Who says they can't be 4 units built in the Stargate!?

Terran has 5 in the SP after all. Although i guess you could say Warp Prism is the equivalent to the medivac.

I'd prefer if they remove the mothership and this unit has some neat spell.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
October 18 2011 16:07 GMT
#1204
Has anyone else noticed that all the units are possibly just morphs of old units? Like the hellion transformer, the baneling transformer, and now this phoenix/corsair thing that could just be another transformer?
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
Pato
Profile Joined January 2004
Argentina67 Posts
October 18 2011 16:09 GMT
#1205
it looks imba
ClS
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:13:02
October 18 2011 16:10 GMT
#1206
An air unit that works as a mobile shield battery would be totally awesome...

[image loading]
~ ROCKET JUMP !!
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
October 18 2011 16:11 GMT
#1207
It's a scarab...
Mada Mada Dane
n6378056
Profile Joined July 2011
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:14:05
October 18 2011 16:13 GMT
#1208
It drops drops psy-bombs onto ground units and has a spell that anti-gravs flying units and pushes them onto the ground.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:19:12
October 18 2011 16:16 GMT
#1209
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:22:31
October 18 2011 16:21 GMT
#1210
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster
invisible tetris level master
ClS
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:23:12
October 18 2011 16:21 GMT
#1211
On October 18 2011 21:14 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 21:08 Dezire wrote:
so T and Z get this new cool looking powerhouses and we another fragile thingy that will die in a second?


This thing can easily be the size of monthership..


Really? I'm not so sure... Looks like a fighter-sized unit. Form suggest non-attacking or only slightly or with some sort of special attack (spell caster).
~ ROCKET JUMP !!
fLaUpYY
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:28:20
October 18 2011 16:27 GMT
#1212
I hope it will be a shield battery from warp gate after ccore to soft counter emps !! would be cool, because another air unit wouldnt be viable as long as it cant hold bio pushes from terrans !
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 16:31 GMT
#1213
On October 19 2011 01:21 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster


Anyone care to help me out on this little disagreement?

What do you think more aptly describes the roll of the pheonix in SC2:

Poll: Pheonix Role

Harass Unit (44)
 
90%

Spell Caster (5)
 
10%

49 total votes

Your vote: Pheonix Role

(Vote): Spell Caster
(Vote): Harass Unit



+ Show Spoiler +

While the pheonix does have a spell, I consider its roll to be for harassment. It certainly does not have the "Spellcaster" role that a Raven, Infestor, or HT have.

For example, just because medivacs can heal, or banshees can cloak doesnt classify them them as spellcasters.

Medivac would be more appropriately classified as support/transport and banshee is harass.

http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
October 18 2011 16:32 GMT
#1214
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


Mothership is obviously air spellcaster unit, which you just said the Protoss miss...

Not viable? July would like to have a word with you. Have you seen him vs HongUn in Orlando?
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 18 2011 16:33 GMT
#1215
I would like to see an ability like pugna's Nether Ward from Dota, If you cast a spell around the unit the caster gets damaged for x amount of damage.
High Risk Low Reward
DocM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States212 Posts
October 18 2011 16:35 GMT
#1216
This is a protoss crossbow that shoots witches.
des0lar
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria126 Posts
October 18 2011 16:36 GMT
#1217
On October 19 2011 01:31 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:21 Nachtwind wrote:
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster


Anyone care to help me out on this little disagreement?

What do you think more aptly describes the roll of the pheonix in SC2:

Poll: Pheonix Role

Harass Unit (44)
 
90%

Spell Caster (5)
 
10%

49 total votes

Your vote: Pheonix Role

(Vote): Spell Caster
(Vote): Harass Unit



+ Show Spoiler +

While the pheonix does have a spell, I consider its roll to be for harassment. It certainly does not have the "Spellcaster" role that a Raven, Infestor, or HT have.

For example, just because medivacs can heal, or banshees can cloak doesnt classify them them as spellcasters.

Medivac would be more appropriately classified as support/transport and banshee is harass.



Lol dude like these 2 are exclusive. The phoenix is a harass unit, but still a spellcaster imo because he uses energy for a spell, just like the medivac.
The banshee just cloaks but has no effect on other units.
Marines and Marauders use health, not energy and the concussive shell is a upgrade like the U238 shells in SC1. But I don't think this discussion has much merit to be honest.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 16:36 GMT
#1218
On October 19 2011 01:32 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


Mothership is obviously air spellcaster unit, which you just said the Protoss miss...

Not viable? July would like to have a word with you. Have you seen him vs HongUn in Orlando?


Mothership caught him off guard

I bet you the first thing that ran through his head was: "wtf.. is this guy trolling me?"

I bet he has nearly no practice playing against a mothership
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#1219
It's a flying Colossi with the capability to attack both air and ground.


Oh wait we already have Void Rays.
maru lover forever
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#1220
On October 19 2011 01:36 des0lar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:31 Roxy wrote:
On October 19 2011 01:21 Nachtwind wrote:
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster


Anyone care to help me out on this little disagreement?

What do you think more aptly describes the roll of the pheonix in SC2:

Poll: Pheonix Role

Harass Unit (44)
 
90%

Spell Caster (5)
 
10%

49 total votes

Your vote: Pheonix Role

(Vote): Spell Caster
(Vote): Harass Unit



+ Show Spoiler +

While the pheonix does have a spell, I consider its roll to be for harassment. It certainly does not have the "Spellcaster" role that a Raven, Infestor, or HT have.

For example, just because medivacs can heal, or banshees can cloak doesnt classify them them as spellcasters.

Medivac would be more appropriately classified as support/transport and banshee is harass.



Lol dude like these 2 are exclusive. The phoenix is a harass unit, but still a spellcaster imo because he uses energy for a spell, just like the medivac.
The banshee just cloaks but has no effect on other units.
Marines and Marauders use health, not energy and the concussive shell is a upgrade like the U238 shells in SC1. But I don't think this discussion has much merit to be honest.


I agree with you to the extent that yes, the pheonix does have a spell and if spellcaster/harass combo was an option in the poll, obviously that would be the only logical choice.

The original argument was that I said the protoss air arsenal could use a spellcaster (referring to the silhouette), and that we are good for harass as voidray/pheonix have harass capabilities.

Then people started to call me out saying we already have spellcasters with the pheonix/mothership

Im just saying that a pheonix doesnt fill the roll of spellcaster the way I define it (spellcasters should have at leats 2-3 spells to be cast)

http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
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