• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:19
CET 10:19
KST 18:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
2025 POECurrency Christmas POE 2 Update 0.4.0 Curr 2025 IGGM Merry Christmas ARC Raiders Items Sale 2025 IGGM Christmas Diablo 4 Season 11 Items Sale 2025 IGGM Monopoly Go Christmas Sale Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1229 users

New Protoss Unit in Heart Of The Swarm - Page 61

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 85 Next
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 18 2011 16:05 GMT
#1201
It looks a lot like a phoenix, the wings(just pointing forward instead of sideways), the engine(or whatever the thing at the back is lol)...difference is that it looks thinner and has those three spikes. Looking at the energy ball I think the attack is AoE. ^^

I can't wait for the reveal.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
meltingmykohchoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
166 Posts
October 18 2011 16:05 GMT
#1202
GROSS!!! unless its something w/ recall )))))
"HeRp DeRp"
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
October 18 2011 16:06 GMT
#1203
On October 19 2011 01:01 ondik wrote:
with this unit added it's pretty safe to assume they will remove VR/Phoenix/Carrier(most likely), right?


Who says they can't be 4 units built in the Stargate!?

Terran has 5 in the SP after all. Although i guess you could say Warp Prism is the equivalent to the medivac.

I'd prefer if they remove the mothership and this unit has some neat spell.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
October 18 2011 16:07 GMT
#1204
Has anyone else noticed that all the units are possibly just morphs of old units? Like the hellion transformer, the baneling transformer, and now this phoenix/corsair thing that could just be another transformer?
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
Pato
Profile Joined January 2004
Argentina67 Posts
October 18 2011 16:09 GMT
#1205
it looks imba
ClS
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:13:02
October 18 2011 16:10 GMT
#1206
An air unit that works as a mobile shield battery would be totally awesome...

[image loading]
~ ROCKET JUMP !!
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
October 18 2011 16:11 GMT
#1207
It's a scarab...
Mada Mada Dane
n6378056
Profile Joined July 2011
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:14:05
October 18 2011 16:13 GMT
#1208
It drops drops psy-bombs onto ground units and has a spell that anti-gravs flying units and pushes them onto the ground.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:19:12
October 18 2011 16:16 GMT
#1209
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:22:31
October 18 2011 16:21 GMT
#1210
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster
invisible tetris level master
ClS
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:23:12
October 18 2011 16:21 GMT
#1211
On October 18 2011 21:14 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 21:08 Dezire wrote:
so T and Z get this new cool looking powerhouses and we another fragile thingy that will die in a second?


This thing can easily be the size of monthership..


Really? I'm not so sure... Looks like a fighter-sized unit. Form suggest non-attacking or only slightly or with some sort of special attack (spell caster).
~ ROCKET JUMP !!
fLaUpYY
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:28:20
October 18 2011 16:27 GMT
#1212
I hope it will be a shield battery from warp gate after ccore to soft counter emps !! would be cool, because another air unit wouldnt be viable as long as it cant hold bio pushes from terrans !
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 16:31 GMT
#1213
On October 19 2011 01:21 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster


Anyone care to help me out on this little disagreement?

What do you think more aptly describes the roll of the pheonix in SC2:

Poll: Pheonix Role

Harass Unit (44)
 
90%

Spell Caster (5)
 
10%

49 total votes

Your vote: Pheonix Role

(Vote): Spell Caster
(Vote): Harass Unit



+ Show Spoiler +

While the pheonix does have a spell, I consider its roll to be for harassment. It certainly does not have the "Spellcaster" role that a Raven, Infestor, or HT have.

For example, just because medivacs can heal, or banshees can cloak doesnt classify them them as spellcasters.

Medivac would be more appropriately classified as support/transport and banshee is harass.

http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
October 18 2011 16:32 GMT
#1214
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


Mothership is obviously air spellcaster unit, which you just said the Protoss miss...

Not viable? July would like to have a word with you. Have you seen him vs HongUn in Orlando?
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 18 2011 16:33 GMT
#1215
I would like to see an ability like pugna's Nether Ward from Dota, If you cast a spell around the unit the caster gets damaged for x amount of damage.
High Risk Low Reward
DocM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States212 Posts
October 18 2011 16:35 GMT
#1216
This is a protoss crossbow that shoots witches.
des0lar
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria126 Posts
October 18 2011 16:36 GMT
#1217
On October 19 2011 01:31 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:21 Nachtwind wrote:
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster


Anyone care to help me out on this little disagreement?

What do you think more aptly describes the roll of the pheonix in SC2:

Poll: Pheonix Role

Harass Unit (44)
 
90%

Spell Caster (5)
 
10%

49 total votes

Your vote: Pheonix Role

(Vote): Spell Caster
(Vote): Harass Unit



+ Show Spoiler +

While the pheonix does have a spell, I consider its roll to be for harassment. It certainly does not have the "Spellcaster" role that a Raven, Infestor, or HT have.

For example, just because medivacs can heal, or banshees can cloak doesnt classify them them as spellcasters.

Medivac would be more appropriately classified as support/transport and banshee is harass.



Lol dude like these 2 are exclusive. The phoenix is a harass unit, but still a spellcaster imo because he uses energy for a spell, just like the medivac.
The banshee just cloaks but has no effect on other units.
Marines and Marauders use health, not energy and the concussive shell is a upgrade like the U238 shells in SC1. But I don't think this discussion has much merit to be honest.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 16:36 GMT
#1218
On October 19 2011 01:32 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


Mothership is obviously air spellcaster unit, which you just said the Protoss miss...

Not viable? July would like to have a word with you. Have you seen him vs HongUn in Orlando?


Mothership caught him off guard

I bet you the first thing that ran through his head was: "wtf.. is this guy trolling me?"

I bet he has nearly no practice playing against a mothership
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#1219
It's a flying Colossi with the capability to attack both air and ground.


Oh wait we already have Void Rays.
maru lover forever
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#1220
On October 19 2011 01:36 des0lar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 01:31 Roxy wrote:
On October 19 2011 01:21 Nachtwind wrote:
On October 19 2011 01:16 Roxy wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


What about the mothership? not viable
IMO they should remove this from the game


On October 19 2011 00:07 demonik187 wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:55 Vardant wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:54 Roxy wrote:
This must be a spell caster
only thing protoss air is missing

Mothership...


Pheonix...



Pheonix is a harass unit (that ceases to function as a harass unit once they lay down static defenses that cost a fraction of what the pheonix' cost.

Pheonix is not a spell caster

Do you consider marines (stim) marauders (concuss/stim) to be spellcasters too?


Do you really now compare marines with Phönix? MM cast for themselves the phönix cast his spell to an enemy unit .. so yes one could say it´s a spellcaster


Anyone care to help me out on this little disagreement?

What do you think more aptly describes the roll of the pheonix in SC2:

Poll: Pheonix Role

Harass Unit (44)
 
90%

Spell Caster (5)
 
10%

49 total votes

Your vote: Pheonix Role

(Vote): Spell Caster
(Vote): Harass Unit



+ Show Spoiler +

While the pheonix does have a spell, I consider its roll to be for harassment. It certainly does not have the "Spellcaster" role that a Raven, Infestor, or HT have.

For example, just because medivacs can heal, or banshees can cloak doesnt classify them them as spellcasters.

Medivac would be more appropriately classified as support/transport and banshee is harass.



Lol dude like these 2 are exclusive. The phoenix is a harass unit, but still a spellcaster imo because he uses energy for a spell, just like the medivac.
The banshee just cloaks but has no effect on other units.
Marines and Marauders use health, not energy and the concussive shell is a upgrade like the U238 shells in SC1. But I don't think this discussion has much merit to be honest.


I agree with you to the extent that yes, the pheonix does have a spell and if spellcaster/harass combo was an option in the poll, obviously that would be the only logical choice.

The original argument was that I said the protoss air arsenal could use a spellcaster (referring to the silhouette), and that we are good for harass as voidray/pheonix have harass capabilities.

Then people started to call me out saying we already have spellcasters with the pheonix/mothership

Im just saying that a pheonix doesnt fill the roll of spellcaster the way I define it (spellcasters should have at leats 2-3 spells to be cast)

http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 85 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
PiGosaur Cup #62
CranKy Ducklings39
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1858
ToSsGirL 1550
Rain 1288
Bisu 765
Shuttle 464
Stork 283
Larva 241
Leta 125
Sharp 73
sorry 73
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 68
BeSt 42
EffOrt 35
ajuk12(nOOB) 22
Sacsri 21
GoRush 17
Sexy 16
Mind 11
JulyZerg 6
zelot 1
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm123
League of Legends
C9.Mang0470
rGuardiaN32
Other Games
summit1g10486
XaKoH 344
ceh9310
Fuzer 182
crisheroes156
Mew2King40
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1137
BasetradeTV36
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH293
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1868
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
2h 41m
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Big Brain Bouts
1d 7h
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.