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Introduction
I've been watching some progamers stream recently, most notably IdrA and DeMusliM, and I was really impressed with how smooth their mouse control looked. I know that whenever I play, my mouse is flying all over the place and I have a hard time clicking reliably on workers, mineral patches, zealots, etc.
I messed about with some settings in the control panel, adjusted the sensitivity in game, fiddled with my mouse DPI (Razer Mamba btw), but nothing seemed to help.
So I looked around for more information regarding mouse acceleration. I found out that in Windows 7 it's impossible to completely remove acceleration without messing with the registry. Even if you turn off "Enhance Pointer Precision", games can still override that! Luckily there is a pretty simple fix that worked like a charm. Once I applied it I noticed immediately how much smoother and responsive my mouse was. It seemed like it was an extension of my hand, rather than a wild beast I was trying to tame (lol).
Step-by-step
1 - First you need to download the registry fix.
2 - Now you need to find the percentage that your display is set to (mine was 100%). Go to:
Control Panel -> Appearance and Personalization -> Display
Find the percentage. (100, 125, 150)
3 - Extract the zip file.
4 - Double-click the REG file that matches your percentage number.
(click yes/ok for the prompts)
5 - Reboot
Now you're done applying the registry fix! But there are some steps you need to take before you're done. First you have to go to your mouse setting and ensure the Windows sensitivity is set to 6/11. Any other setting means you're not getting 1-1 control ie: missed pixels, input delay. Make sure to uncheck "Enhance Pointer Precision". (duh)
I personally set SCII sensitivity to 54%, and play with my DPI to get a comfortable feel, and that's what I recommend you do. If you don't have a mouse with adjustable DPI though, feel free to change this setting as you please, it doesn't hurt.
Done
I hope this guide has helped with your mouse settings, I know it has helped mine!
The Liquipedia entry on Mouse settings is informative, and you should read it if you haven't before.
EDIT:
If at any time you want to undo this fix, go to the folder you extracted the zip file to, and double click the on that says WindowsDefault. Click through the prompts, and restart.
I should also mention that I'm unsure what exact settings pros use, I just find that this fix helps MY mouse control to more closely resemble what I see on their streams!
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So do you know that pros use this registry fix, or is your referring to them just because you find the feel of it more resembles what theirs looks like?
Great info though, I'll look into it, it looks quite promising.
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=P I find the feel of it more resembles what theirs looks like. Maybe I'll put that in there so no one gets confused
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
Still don't get it why i should DL a Regfix for Mouse Accel to prevent the Accel Bug happening with older Games (such as CS). You don't need this for SC2.
http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html
I use 6/11 - 54% and have 1:1 in MovementRecorder (without the Regfix ofc). You also don't need this crap for FPS (at least not for the newer ones). Most of those might use build-in other accel crap (like BF:BC2) but there are often other fixes 
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The registry fix is just a simple thing that every serious FPS gamer should have done or has done already. Bottom line: muscle memory develops quicker and is more accurate without acceleration, because it eliminates a variable (aim speed).
In FPS games, this can mean that you can hit insane 180 degree turn-snipes purely by feel, whereas it's very hard to do the same if you're using acceleration (the speed at which you turn also factors into where you aim, which is far from ideal. Depending on how fast you react, that one crucial headshot is either 2cm or 4cm of mouse movement away.)
I'd say it's a must-have tweak for anyone who is at all serious about gaming. In RTS, the effect might not be as immense as it is in FPS games, but being able to split workers with your eyes closed (because you're made that exact motion thousands of times already) or exactly hit that one ghost you're trying to feedback can make quite the difference in your level of control and speed thereof.
edit: Before we get into that whole debate again: yes. There are pro players who use acceleration and still play well. No one is saying it's impossible to play well with acceleration on. It just takes a lot longer to get to the same level of comfort with your mouse, and your muscle memory is a lot more sensitive to small changes (mousepad surface, new mouse, slightly tired arm, etc...)
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On October 16 2011 08:20 dezi wrote:
Still don't get it why i should DL a Regfix for Mouse Accel to prevent the Accel Bug happening with older Games (such as CS). You don't need this for SC2.
it disables it on desktop as well, which if you use 51% in SC2 gives you the same pixel to movement ratio. you can literally increase your sc2 precision just by browsing the internet and whatnot.
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Of course you don't NEED this for SCII, but it did make a difference for me.
That's where I got this fix from! But I thought it would be nicer if I wrote it up and posted it here, where more people would see it.
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
On October 16 2011 08:23 Turo wrote:Of course you don't NEED this for SCII, but it did make a difference for me. That's where I got this fix from! But I thought it would be nicer if I wrote it up and posted it here, where more people would see it.
Still - use Movement Recorder before AND after. I bet you'll be at 1:1 everytime. You don't need Regfix cause SC2 just doesn't mess with Accel.
Btw: has been posted before ~
On October 16 2011 08:22 Terranist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 08:20 dezi wrote:
Still don't get it why i should DL a Regfix for Mouse Accel to prevent the Accel Bug happening with older Games (such as CS). You don't need this for SC2. it disables it on desktop as well, which if you use 51% in SC2 gives you the same pixel to movement ratio. you can literally increase your sc2 precision just by browsing the internet and whatnot.
You can disable it as well without the fix. Sometimes disabling stuff in Windows settings really does what it should do.
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you could do thist + Show Spoiler +Step-by-step
1 - First you need to download the registry fix.
2 - Now you need to find the percentage that your display is set to (mine was 100%). Go to:
Control Panel -> Appearance and Personalization -> Display
Find the percentage. (100, 125, 150)
3 - Extract the zip file.
4 - Double-click the REG file that matches your percentage number.
(click yes/ok for the prompts)
5 - Reboot
or just play starcraft 2 on ubuntu via wine and just not have the issue.
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This should have zero effect whatsoever on sc2 unless your mouse acceleration is bugged to be always-on. It was made for older games like half-life where the game would force-on mouse acceleration even though it was disabled in your mouse settings.
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
On October 16 2011 08:29 Seagull_ wrote:
This should have zero effect whatsoever on sc2 unless your mouse acceleration is bugged to be always-on. It was made for older games like half-life where the game would force-on mouse acceleration even though it was disabled in your mouse settings.
This - just better explained then i did maybe :D
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On October 16 2011 08:28 alpenrahm wrote:you could do thist + Show Spoiler +Step-by-step
1 - First you need to download the registry fix.
2 - Now you need to find the percentage that your display is set to (mine was 100%). Go to:
Control Panel -> Appearance and Personalization -> Display
Find the percentage. (100, 125, 150)
3 - Extract the zip file.
4 - Double-click the REG file that matches your percentage number.
(click yes/ok for the prompts)
5 - Reboot or just play starcraft 2 on ubuntu via wine and just not have the issue.
Yeah, and then we can insert a guide about how to perform the most trivial tasks through a command line, 100 times the length of that simple 5-step guide.
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Not sure if this will fix the problem. But before I try it i have a question:
I read a lot of things about DPI and windows mouse speed ETC trying to get a consistently smooth and accurate mouse motion in Brood War. Eventually I settled on this:
Windows mouse: setting 6
Razer Deathadder: 1800 DPI, sensitivity 10
No other software settings or Chaos plugin mouse tweaks.
This setup is perfect for me and I feel like it gives me the most accurate control.
In an attempt to recreate this feeling for SC2, I also read that I should keep the Windows setting on 6 to retain 1:1 pixel blah blah blah, and 51-54% SC2 mouse setting.
It still feels slightly off though. When I whip my mouse to make a worker mine for example, I come up pretty short and it feels as though my cursor is bouncing off an "invisible wall" towards the end of the whipping motion. Is this negative acceleration? not sure what the problem is.
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On October 16 2011 08:06 Turo wrote:IntroductionI've been watching some progamers stream recently, most notably IdrA and DeMusliM, and I was really impressed with how smooth their mouse control looked. I know that whenever I play, my mouse is flying all over the place and I have a hard time clicking reliably on workers, mineral patches, zealots, etc. I messed about with some settings in the control panel, adjusted the sensitivity in game, fiddled with my mouse DPI (Razer Mamba btw), but nothing seemed to help. So I looked around for more information regarding mouse acceleration. I found out that in Windows 7 it's impossible to completely remove acceleration without messing with the registry. Even if you turn off "Enhance Pointer Precision", games can still override that! Luckily there is a pretty simple fix that worked like a charm. Once I applied it I noticed immediately how much smoother and responsive my mouse was. It seemed like it was an extension of my hand, rather than a wild beast I was trying to tame (lol). Step-by-step1 - First you need to download the registry fix. 2 - Now you need to find the percentage that your display is set to (mine was 100%). Go to: Control Panel -> Appearance and Personalization -> Display Find the percentage. (100, 125, 150) 3 - Extract the zip file. 4 - Double-click the REG file that matches your percentage number. (click yes/ok for the prompts) 5 - Reboot Now you're done applying the registry fix! But there are some steps you need to take before you're done. First you have to go to your mouse setting and ensure the Windows sensitivity is set to 6/11. Any other setting means you're not getting 1-1 control ie: missed pixels, input delay. Make sure to uncheck "Enhance Pointer Precision". (duh) I personally set SCII sensitivity to 54%, and play with my DPI to get a comfortable feel, and that's what I recommend you do. If you don't have a mouse with adjustable DPI though, feel free to change this setting as you please, it doesn't hurt. DoneI hope this guide has helped with your mouse settings, I know it has helped mine! The Liquipedia entry on Mouse settings is informative, and you should read it if you haven't before. EDIT:If at any time you want to undo this fix, go to the folder you extracted the zip file to, and double click the on that says WindowsDefault. Click through the prompts, and restart. I should also mention that I'm unsure what exact settings pros use, I just find that this fix helps MY mouse control to more closely resemble what I see on their streams!
IdrA and Demuslim both use the Steelseries Sensai, which has negative and positive acceleration built into the sensor in a way that you cant disable or adjust.
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Yeah I just bought a steelseries mousepad and my mouse glides like crazy.
Is there one for Mac? Im currently playing on one
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Do majors LANs allow for players to install this registry fix?
If you are used to playing with the fix it seems playing on a computer without it would be detrimental to your performance
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MLG has already fixed their registries to remove mouse acceleration. Not sure about other tournies but I'd imagine they do the same.
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On October 16 2011 09:25 Demonhunter04 wrote:
MLG has already fixed their registries to remove mouse acceleration. Not sure about other tournies but I'd imagine they do the same.
Oh cool I did not know that, Thanks!
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On October 16 2011 08:32 DarQraven wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 08:28 alpenrahm wrote:you could do thist + Show Spoiler +Step-by-step
1 - First you need to download the registry fix.
2 - Now you need to find the percentage that your display is set to (mine was 100%). Go to:
Control Panel -> Appearance and Personalization -> Display
Find the percentage. (100, 125, 150)
3 - Extract the zip file.
4 - Double-click the REG file that matches your percentage number.
(click yes/ok for the prompts)
5 - Reboot or just play starcraft 2 on ubuntu via wine and just not have the issue. Yeah, and then we can insert a guide about how to perform the most trivial tasks through a command line, 100 times the length of that simple 5-step guide.
1 command, or clicking 5 different dialogs and running seperate files + reboot.
im not starting anything, but what you said was silly.
Thanks for the link OP, ive been looking for this for a while now, ^^
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you do realize that even if one had acceleration, they would eventually get used to it just like any other type of setup? i have acceleration and have no problem selecting individual workers on the fly,...
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