EPTThough if he did, it would be interesting. With the easier Macro in Sc2 he should be able to keep up with top tier players to a certain degree, and with his pure RTS brilliance I can see him doing much better then the other legends that have switched over simply because of the nature of Sc2 with much more bo wins etc.
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Necro)Phagist(
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Though if he did, it would be interesting. With the easier Macro in Sc2 he should be able to keep up with top tier players to a certain degree, and with his pure RTS brilliance I can see him doing much better then the other legends that have switched over simply because of the nature of Sc2 with much more bo wins etc. | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On October 15 2011 09:18 Vaelone wrote: Shouldn't that actually work against him or is my logic flawed. oov wasn't actually great at macro mechanics, he was great at using strategies that allowed him to take a much faster 3rd base than his peers at the time which allowed him to get more units out. he was a strategical player, but his strategies focused on securing resources rather than all-in attacks edited for clarity | ||
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:03 Gann1 wrote: oov wasn't actually great at macro, he was great at using strategies that allowed him to take a much faster 3rd base than his peers at the time which allowed him to get more units out. he was a strategical player, but his strategies focused on securing resources rather than all-in attacks He was a great macro terran... Only person that's macro was up to par with him in his prime was Reach | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:06 trikshun wrote: He was a great macro terran... Only person that's macro was up to par with him in his prime was Reach Ahh Reach.. how I wish he would switch over to Sc2... I think he would do amazingly. It makes me cry watching him warm the bench in BW. Besides we all know Sc2 is seriously lacking in the Manliness department! | ||
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It has nothing to do with "getting old" like in real sports, as early-mid 20s is not old in the slightest and tip-top physical condition isn't in the slightest required for professional BW. They just lose their passion and lose determination to be the best. It's sad ;(. Let's face it. If these legends had the same mentality, demeanor, and determination as in their big years, they'd still be kicking ass and taking names in BW to this day :S | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:09 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Ahh Reach.. how I wish he would switch over to Sc2... I think he would do amazingly. It makes me cry watching him warm the bench in BW. Besides we all know Sc2 is seriously lacking in the Manliness department! Outside of the EG house, I would agree that SC2 needs Mantoss or a Mantoss equivalent to show that even progamers can be bodybuilders. Fortunately, there is the EG house. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:12 eviltomahawk wrote: Outside of the EG house, I would agree that SC2 needs Mantoss or a Mantoss equivalent to show that even progamers can be bodybuilders. Fortunately, there is the EG house. Ahh this is somewhat true. But what made Reach the Mantoss wasn't just his awesome body!  . It was his play style, He macro'd like a beast and his builds were mad of balls of steel! Massing up zealots instead of dragoons and just straight up over running people etc.Also I just remembered this is a thread about Oov and not Reach! Oops xD | ||
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ReturnStroke
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Dirtysocks
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:03 Gann1 wrote: oov wasn't actually great at macro mechanics, he was great at using strategies that allowed him to take a much faster 3rd base than his peers at the time which allowed him to get more units out. he was a strategical player, but his strategies focused on securing resources rather than all-in attacks edited for clarity What?! While I agree that his strategies revolved around securing a lot of resources early. He was better at Macro than most of his peers at that time. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:10 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: I wish BW players didn't lose their passion. I saw it with oov, I saw it with Savior. They have a few big years, and then after that, it looks like they just get a bit worn-down and undetermined, and they just don't play so well anymore. It has nothing to do with "getting old" like in real sports, as early-mid 20s is not old in the slightest and tip-top physical condition isn't in the slightest required for professional BW. They just lose their passion and lose determination to be the best. It's sad ;(. Let's face it. If these legends had the same mentality, demeanor, and determination as in their big years, they'd still be kicking ass and taking names in BW to this day :S oov was more team than me in orientation; he wasn't one of the guys who would chase titles because he just wanted to; focusing more on team led him to retire early and instead be the coaching backbone for SKT T1. Look what it developed. Midas and Fantasy; the best team-grown terran talents in progaming. (Flash doesn't count, his talent is natural. :p) | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:29 Ciryandor wrote: oov was more team than me in orientation; he wasn't one of the guys who would chase titles because he just wanted to; focusing more on team led him to retire early and instead be the coaching backbone for SKT T1. Look what it developed. Midas and Fantasy; the best team-grown terran talents in progaming. (Flash doesn't count, his talent is natural. :p) Let's face it, esports is a lot harder to psychologically maintain that form than regular sports, since it's so disconnected from reality and physicality. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:03 Gann1 wrote: oov wasn't actually great at macro mechanics, he was great at using strategies that allowed him to take a much faster 3rd base than his peers at the time which allowed him to get more units out. he was a strategical player, but his strategies focused on securing resources rather than all-in attacks edited for clarity Not great at macro mechanics? lol Watch 8:02 Also, he is clicking each building individually and making the unit. In SC1 you can't hot key all your buildings in one hot key and just click m to make marines. Which is also one reason why I have more respect for SC1 players then the SC2 ones. The games a lot damn harder. | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:28 windsupernova wrote: What?! While I agree that his strategies revolved around securing a lot of resources early. He was better at Macro than most of his peers at that time. if you go back and watch some oov games, you'll see what i mean. he had a LOT more factories than he should need for his base count in most games, which signifies loose mechanics his mechanics were good for the time but not great. the point I'm trying to make is that it was his mind that made him the cheater terran, not his hand speed. that'll translate over well into sc2, hand speed/mechanics wouldn't translate over as well since there isn't as much that separates great mechanics from good mechanics in sc2 @guy above me - you don't need to give me the bw is harder lecture, i'm a bw player and still greatly prefer it over sc2 | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On October 17 2011 11:02 Gann1 wrote: if you go back and watch some oov games, you'll see what i mean. he had a LOT more factories than he should need for his base count in most games, which signifies loose mechanics his mechanics were good for the time but not great. the point I'm trying to make is that it was his mind that made him the cheater terran, not his hand speed. that'll translate over well into sc2, hand speed/mechanics wouldn't translate over as well since there isn't as much that separates great mechanics from good mechanics in sc2 @guy above me - you don't need to give me the bw is harder lecture, i'm a bw player and still greatly prefer it over sc2 If he can sufficiently afford all those factories than why not? You aren't proving a point | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2514 Posts
On October 17 2011 10:03 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Didn't he retire because of a wrist injury? I don't see that just going away so I doubt he will actually switch over professionally. Though if he did, it would be interesting. With the easier Macro in Sc2 he should be able to keep up with top tier players to a certain degree, and with his pure RTS brilliance I can see him doing much better then the other legends that have switched over simply because of the nature of Sc2 with much more bo wins etc. Ya broke his wrist in the shower, took like a year to recover I think and then just switched to coaching. | ||
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
On October 17 2011 11:05 brachester wrote: master already lol I'm fairly certain there is literally no way a former BW pro wouldn't immediately be Master when they transition to SC2 | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On October 17 2011 11:15 Kaal wrote: Ya broke his wrist in the shower, took like a year to recover I think and then just switched to coaching. Ahh my bad I thought it was a more serious injury :S. If thats the case I really hope he switches over I think his style would fit very nicely with Sc2 | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On October 17 2011 11:13 trikshun wrote: If he can sufficiently afford all those factories than why not? You aren't proving a point he can afford those factories because he missed production cycles | ||
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