How much of a cut does blizzard get from tourny? - Page 17

On October 14 2011 02:51 TBO wrote:


Well the same way as they do it in traditional sports, depending on results you get a share (which is way less lopsided than the prize money distribution), additionally matches played on stage/streamed on main stream give a bonus, it's really not that hard.

On October 14 2011 02:56 conz wrote:
Taking it away from the what's correct and legal, it's a shame because in a sense MLG and these bigger events are growing SC2 through advertising sc2, surely blizzard makes a ton off the people that watch the big crowds and hours of content then decide to buy or play the game. Doesn't seem fair.

On October 14 2011 03:36 Warblade! wrote:


What exactly would seem fair to you? For those of you having such an issue with a possible revenue stream for Blizzard off of these tournaments, do you also bombard the forums of the NFL, NBA, MLB, FIFA, etc. complaining whenever they take a cut of revenue from broadcasted content of their respective sports?

I think the point everyone is missing here is that the major tournaments themselves are doing quite well. We have MLG_Lee here personally defending Blizzard's right to a cut of the revenue and while he legally can't comment on it, I'm sure it's because he and the MLG are doing quite well regardless of that cut. And I'm sure it's the same for the GSL, IPL, Dreamhack, etc. I find it hilarious that people are trying to villify Blizzard so badly that they're missing the big picture that the eSports scene is EXPLODING right now.

EVERYONE involved with the major events are making money - from the organizers to the progamers to the sponsors and yes even Blizzard. As a fan, it blows my mind that people will find any reason to complain about the current tournament and eSports scene when we as fans have more content than ever before and the scene is on the verge of blowing up into the mainstream thanks to these amazing games of SC2, BarCrafts forming as a result and the burgeoning possibilities of having eSports on broadcast television (P.S. thanks Sundance/MLG for working on getting this done!).

If Blizzard were screwing things up as badly as the trolls are making them out to be, NONE of this would even be an issue. This would be a forum with 10 people discussing the merits of Supreme Commander or some other RTS as an esports game and how they're the only 10 people with the vision to see how it could maybe succeed as one with tournaments paying out hundreds of dollars to the top players!

On October 14 2011 03:33 SaturnAttack wrote:
Absolutely despise Blizzard.

On October 14 2011 04:20 Sjk1 wrote:
I Do not agree with this, I feel blizzard should not get any of the money from tournaments, unless they do something for the tournament, like give it LAN SUPPORT!

Or at least an in game announcement of the tournament, a bit more advertisement towards the tournament.

On October 14 2011 03:58 gh0un wrote:


Absolutely agree. Blizzard sucks.

On October 12 2011 20:41 roymarthyup wrote:
sigh thinking more and more about this makes me so sad at how blizzard is turning into this gigantic soulless corporation. i know not everything is soulless, but this one concept is just insane how they take the money that comes from other peoples hard work of creating and running a tournament

im high masters practicing alot cuz i wanna compete in tournamants for fun but i dunno how i feel about supporting such a concept... i just dont feel its fair for blizzard to take cuts from tournaments that they didnt create and build

i hope some company comes around and designs a super good esports game and doesnt charge money for tournaments to use it

or heck, blizzard with its billions of dollars should simply buy-out MLG and gomtv and every other tournament and simply run it themselves, and by that i mean blizzard would also be buying out all the employees of those other companies and having them run it for them.

I could actually support such a concept. If blizzard is running its own tournament, then sure, it gets all the money from it. I find that fair. And if blizzard buys out all the tournaments then it would make sense for them to get all the revenue from it. I see no problem with that.

But what blizzard is doing is taking cuts of tournament profits without buying out those tournaments... They are getting a cut of other peoples hard work... Sigh this concept i dont know if i can bring myself to support it

On October 14 2011 04:43 Alvar wrote:
Awesome, case by case seem to be the best way, and it seems that big tournament organisers and Blizzard can both be happy this way. I hope Starcraft 2 becomes extremely profitable for Blizzard. TB can continue to make his tournaments with a 5k$ limit, that should be good enough.

The only thing I realy do hope (and judging by the post from MLG_Lee this is the way it is), is that the cut Blizzard takes is from profits, not revenue. Doesnt realy matter if both the organizers and Blizzard are happy, but it would make it easier to maximize the pricepools.

I want games like Starcraft II and Diablo III to be competitive in revenue to a game like world of warcraft so those games continue to be made. Most f2p and subscription-models used today need to die in a fire.

On October 14 2011 03:55 Hnnngg wrote:
Time to inject a new opinion... I don't give a fuck what MLG Lee says or thinks. I don't want to indirectly pay Blizzard so they can make up their single-player casual bullshit. I want to pay for esports, and if any percentage of that goes to Blizzard, then the money is getting squandered for whatever Blizzard wants to spend it on (single-player casual bullshit).

Theorycrafting right now, but I don't want MLG to be "fine". Fine is bullshit when it can be Good. Blizzard is choking out their IP, scarcity is real and it's inefficient to use our limited funds for what Blizzard wants (single-player casual bullshit).

Blizzard isn't screwing up, but they aren't helping. Their patches and balancing is just fixing their original fuck-ups. They don't (or shouldn't) balance for meta-game. So they just need to balance for the original content, which they could've done before they even shipped it out instead of focusing on other things they did (single-player casual bullshit).

On October 14 2011 04:47 BirdKiller wrote:
I'm on the side that Blizzard is morally right to do this. Starcraft 2 is their product and property, and for some other organization or person to take all the revenue / profits from it by organizing a tournament is silly.

Some people mentioned that Blizzard doesn't deserve to get a share due to gameplay, balance, or technical issues, but does that mean Blizzard should forfeit what it created and let others take advantage of Starcraft 2? To me, the intellectual property argument for Blizzard is in a separate and higher category or level of argument over the quality of the property.

Try bringing it to court, that Blizzard doesn't deserve to get a share, because the product is poor, despite Blizzard creating that product. You really think people outside of Blizzard and Starcraft 2 community are going to see that as a compelling argument?

On October 14 2011 04:47 Assirra wrote:

and yet you are still playing/watching their game, the hilarity..