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kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
October 10 2011 17:33 GMT
#541
ultralisk's lil bro
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#542
On October 11 2011 02:28 Xenocryst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 02:26 SeaSwift wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:23 Xenocryst wrote:
@anyone who really thinks its a banelign launcher..... really?? has the word balance entered your head at all?


Well, given there's a unit which can make a Black Hole, a race designed around the ability to TELEPORT, an ability which makes an army of Marines for you instantly and an ability which mind controls other units - and there's the whole Terran race, I guess - I think a baneling launcher could work.



how do i make an army of marines??? i wanna do that


1) Somehow get a shit-ton of Infestors.

2) Use the Infested Terran ability

3) ???

4) Profit.

I'm not saying it's overpowered, I just mean that from the sound of it that ability would be really overpowered. It probably isn't IMO, and if Blizzard can balance that they can balance Baneling launchers. Hopefully.
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#543
Its just a picture of an overlord raping a hydralisk. The real unit will be their lovechild, the overlisk.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50654 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#544
On October 11 2011 02:32 fastfake wrote:
Calling it now (I have no idea if i was first) HydRoach (Morph of Hydra & Roach)


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153275
over an year late boyo.
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Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#545
On October 11 2011 02:30 Cain0 wrote:

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On October 11 2011 02:26 Demonace34 wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:23 Xenocryst wrote:
@anyone who really thinks its a banelign launcher..... really?? has the word balance entered your head at all?

People would of said the same thing about the colossus before release if they just gave us an outline. "@anyone who thinks lasers that can shoot up to range 9 and do aoe damage from this unit is dumb". The fact is though, that you can balance almost anything with the right modifications to stats...


Yeh, but the collossus is just a horrid a-move unit that is only effective in a blob. Hopefully it will get replaced, no idea what blizzard was thinking when they designed it.



if anything is going to get replaced for toss its the M ship.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#546
On October 11 2011 02:28 Sajaki wrote:
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On October 11 2011 02:24 Sagitarrius wrote:
A good way to throw people off when releasing a silhouette like this is to play off peoples assumptions, have something resembling mandibles and put it in the front, the natural conclusion is that its the face... looking closely at the silhouette I cant help but think that blizzard is playing a trick on us and is in fact displaying a lurker from behind.


I see it now that you mention it! Well its a possibility... Hopefully they do a full reveal at blizzcon T_T


These three units, as well as the rest of the new Heart of the Swarm multiplayer units and abilities, will be unveiled and playable at the show on October 21 and 22.

TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#547
On October 11 2011 01:46 DeltruS wrote:
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On October 11 2011 01:44 pallad wrote:
On October 11 2011 01:38 green.at wrote:
1 more week until my hopes of a reaver are crushed!


Toss never get a reaver , they got to many AOE , splash units already .. get real


Dustin Browder said in the CatZ interview that the colossus should be removed and that toss need a harass unit. Two birds with one stone?

But then again, the new warp prism is pretty good harass.

If the colossus gets removed I will be the happiest protoss on Aiur.
Cackle™
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#548
On October 11 2011 02:13 Xenocryst wrote:
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On October 11 2011 02:10 tnud wrote:
Well, it certainly looks like zerg is getting their "tank" unit.

If Protoss could get something equally nice...
[image loading]
I'd be a happy man


please please please please please please please


The reaver is already in the game. It's the infestor. When the zerg infested Aiur, they took over the reaver facilities ^^
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Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#549
On October 11 2011 02:31 Sajaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 02:30 Cain0 wrote:

On October 11 2011 02:26 Demonace34 wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:23 Xenocryst wrote:
@anyone who really thinks its a banelign launcher..... really?? has the word balance entered your head at all?

People would of said the same thing about the colossus before release if they just gave us an outline. "@anyone who thinks lasers that can shoot up to range 9 and do aoe damage from this unit is dumb". The fact is though, that you can balance almost anything with the right modifications to stats...


Yeh, but the collossus is just a horrid a-move unit that is only effective in a blob. Hopefully it will get replaced, no idea what blizzard was thinking when they designed it.


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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#550
Funnily enough, it actually does look like a reverse Hydra Roach XD. I can't wait to see the Protoss one! Partly so I can fantasise about using it, but also because I predict a bunch of people are going to whine about it and say it has no chance of 'saving' Protoss.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#551
On October 11 2011 02:28 Xenocryst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 02:26 SeaSwift wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:23 Xenocryst wrote:
@anyone who really thinks its a banelign launcher..... really?? has the word balance entered your head at all?


Well, given there's a unit which can make a Black Hole, a race designed around the ability to TELEPORT, an ability which makes an army of Marines for you instantly and an ability which mind controls other units - and there's the whole Terran race, I guess - I think a baneling launcher could work.



how do i make an army of marines??? i wanna do that

it's called infestors
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#552
/!\ I JUST WANT TO WARN YOU /!\

If this is a siege unit ZvZ will become a TvT like !
rly ?
SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
October 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#553
On October 11 2011 02:28 Xenocryst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 02:26 SeaSwift wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:23 Xenocryst wrote:
@anyone who really thinks its a banelign launcher..... really?? has the word balance entered your head at all?


Well, given there's a unit which can make a Black Hole, a race designed around the ability to TELEPORT, an ability which makes an army of Marines for you instantly and an ability which mind controls other units - and there's the whole Terran race, I guess - I think a baneling launcher could work.



how do i make an army of marines??? i wanna do that



Make some infestors :-)


P.S. It is not a baneling launcher.
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
October 10 2011 17:35 GMT
#554
On October 11 2011 02:32 Rococo wrote:
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On October 11 2011 02:25 Ballistixz wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:20 Rococo wrote:
Whatever it is, I really hope it doesn't have siege range. A ground unit with siege range just isn't zergy in my opinion. (The Lurker only had 6. People call it a siege unit but it's more like a very positional melee unit. To attack with lurkers you had to move up pretty close and burrow, giving the defending player a chance to run away or focus fire them down.)



explain why u think that? a sige range unit for zerg can be "zergy" easily depending on design. have u ever seen the movie starship troopers? i often compare zerg to "the bugs" in that movie. in that movie they had some kind of tank like beatle that could launch acidic blobs at extremly long ranges.

if they make the siege unit for zerg a organic slow walking mobile unit then i can easily see it working.


I'm talking more about design than theme. This is less true in SC2, but Zerg in BW was about fast, in your face units that would overwhelm the opponent and push him back. That Zerg had no ground siege unit was an asymmetry that made for interesting gameplay.


Well considering we have no clue on the range or movement speed of this unit so far you are assuming that it is slow and does a ton of damage. Maybe it is fast, can take enough damage to get underground and siege a small area ~5 range. Until then we can only deduce what it looks like and not what it is capable of.
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OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
October 10 2011 17:35 GMT
#555
On October 11 2011 02:14 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 02:13 Xenocryst wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:10 tnud wrote:
Well, it certainly looks like zerg is getting their "tank" unit.

If Protoss could get something equally nice...
[image loading]
I'd be a happy man


please please please please please please please

a unit that basically shoots banelings, great stuff


I will only accept this if the scarab AI is as bad as in BW ^^
<3
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 17:54:03
October 10 2011 17:36 GMT
#556
On October 11 2011 02:35 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 02:32 Rococo wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:25 Ballistixz wrote:
On October 11 2011 02:20 Rococo wrote:
Whatever it is, I really hope it doesn't have siege range. A ground unit with siege range just isn't zergy in my opinion. (The Lurker only had 6. People call it a siege unit but it's more like a very positional melee unit. To attack with lurkers you had to move up pretty close and burrow, giving the defending player a chance to run away or focus fire them down.)



explain why u think that? a sige range unit for zerg can be "zergy" easily depending on design. have u ever seen the movie starship troopers? i often compare zerg to "the bugs" in that movie. in that movie they had some kind of tank like beatle that could launch acidic blobs at extremly long ranges.

if they make the siege unit for zerg a organic slow walking mobile unit then i can easily see it working.


I'm talking more about design than theme. This is less true in SC2, but Zerg in BW was about fast, in your face units that would overwhelm the opponent and push him back. That Zerg had no ground siege unit was an asymmetry that made for interesting gameplay.


Well considering we have no clue on the range or movement speed of this unit so far you are assuming that it is slow and does a ton of damage. Maybe it is fast, can take enough damage to get underground and siege a small area ~5 range. Until then we can only deduce what it looks like and not what it is capable of.


A unit with 5 range is not a siege unit (edit: in the sense that I meant it, which is a unit with siege range like the Colossus with TL).
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
October 10 2011 17:36 GMT
#557
On October 11 2011 02:34 ZAiNs wrote:
Funnily enough, it actually does look like a reverse Hydra Roach XD. I can't wait to see the Protoss one! Partly so I can fantasise about using it, but also because I predict a bunch of people are going to whine about it and say it has no chance of 'saving' Protoss.


Unless it looks like a Reaver. In which case SC2 fans will be cleaning their keyboards of jizz all over the world.
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 10 2011 17:36 GMT
#558

On October 11 2011 02:10 tnud wrote:
Well, it certainly looks like zerg is getting their "tank" unit.

If Protoss could get something equally nice...
[image loading]
I'd be a happy man


What a snail with a mustache???


+ Show Spoiler +
I know its a reaver
herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 17:38:22
October 10 2011 17:36 GMT
#559
[image loading]
Blizzard thinks we're fools.
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
October 10 2011 17:36 GMT
#560
On October 11 2011 02:17 Roynalf wrote:
http://memegenerator.net/instance/10528343


New zerg unit? Whaaaat an hoooonnor
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
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