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[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
October 09 2011 23:39 GMT
#361
Good : -map refreshing
-rank refreshing

Bad (sorta): bonus pools for ppl who dont play alot get lost... (Don't know if this a bad thing tho, inactive people get rewarded enough with the rediculous pool already)

Overall view : I think it'll be good to mix in new maps, keeps people coming. And I don't think pro gamers care about the map refreshing too much, they don't play those shitty blizzard maps in tournaments anyways, ladder is more of a mechanics upkeep than strat tester. For the people worried about not getting in your league : If you can't get your old spot in a couple of days, then you probably don't deserve it either.
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
October 09 2011 23:42 GMT
#362
i like when seasons change. makes me all tingly inside
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
summer0f89
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
October 09 2011 23:44 GMT
#363
On October 10 2011 06:31 dde wrote:
ya because im at 175 bonus pool and only 5bp away from getting kicked out from GM league (2nd place in na) I just dont wanna get kicked out from GM league. (I can only spend 1 or 2 bp per game which is insanely hard for me to dump them too)


this is why blizzard needs to change the gm kick-out system. the lower your mmr, the easier it is to get non-trivial bonus pool spent per win, and therefore the fewer games you have to play to stay in gm.

whereas the top players are always favored and have to mass games to keep their bp down. these players are also the most likely to train privately and/or on multiple ladders/accounts and are the most likely to travel for events, meaning that the best players have arguably the most fragile grandmasters tenure (and those at or around 40-120 gm might be the most stable).

although shorter ladders seasons might also help alleviate this, as long as blizzard doesn't reduce the gm bp cap commensurately.
Blackinator
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 23:50:29
October 09 2011 23:50 GMT
#364
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......Now I have to grind my bonus pool. Thanks Blizzard. T.T
Stephen
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
October 09 2011 23:53 GMT
#365
On October 10 2011 08:44 summer0f89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 06:31 dde wrote:
ya because im at 175 bonus pool and only 5bp away from getting kicked out from GM league (2nd place in na) I just dont wanna get kicked out from GM league. (I can only spend 1 or 2 bp per game which is insanely hard for me to dump them too)


this is why blizzard needs to change the gm kick-out system. the lower your mmr, the easier it is to get non-trivial bonus pool spent per win, and therefore the fewer games you have to play to stay in gm.

whereas the top players are always favored and have to mass games to keep their bp down. these players are also the most likely to train privately and/or on multiple ladders/accounts and are the most likely to travel for events, meaning that the best players have arguably the most fragile grandmasters tenure (and those at or around 40-120 gm might be the most stable).

although shorter ladders seasons might also help alleviate this, as long as blizzard doesn't reduce the gm bp cap commensurately.


If they eliminated the GM kick-out system, then there would be no point in laddering anymore if you were rank 1 masters after the GM people were selected until the next season came out.

Maybe changing the way that you get knocked out of GM would be better?
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
summer0f89
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
October 09 2011 23:56 GMT
#366
On October 10 2011 08:53 envisioN . wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 08:44 summer0f89 wrote:
On October 10 2011 06:31 dde wrote:
ya because im at 175 bonus pool and only 5bp away from getting kicked out from GM league (2nd place in na) I just dont wanna get kicked out from GM league. (I can only spend 1 or 2 bp per game which is insanely hard for me to dump them too)


this is why blizzard needs to change the gm kick-out system. the lower your mmr, the easier it is to get non-trivial bonus pool spent per win, and therefore the fewer games you have to play to stay in gm.

whereas the top players are always favored and have to mass games to keep their bp down. these players are also the most likely to train privately and/or on multiple ladders/accounts and are the most likely to travel for events, meaning that the best players have arguably the most fragile grandmasters tenure (and those at or around 40-120 gm might be the most stable).

although shorter ladders seasons might also help alleviate this, as long as blizzard doesn't reduce the gm bp cap commensurately.


If they eliminated the GM kick-out system, then there would be no point in laddering anymore if you were rank 1 masters after the GM people were selected until the next season came out.

Maybe changing the way that you get knocked out of GM would be better?


my first sentence was a recommendation to change it, not get rid of it o_O
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:08:28
October 10 2011 03:07 GMT
#367
Upon learning the ladder locks tomorrow, I've been laddering like crazy this weekend and I got promoted to master right before the deadline!

Anyway, I had kind of a related question. Before I was promoted, I had 0 bonus pool points. After promotion, it said I had 408 points for 1v1. I've never seen this before, is this some new policy or a glitch or something? I'm glad to have them since I will be able to easily reach rank 1 master now, but I thought it was very odd to receive them.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Days
Profile Joined February 2010
United States219 Posts
October 10 2011 03:47 GMT
#368
So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends
We buy things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
October 10 2011 03:49 GMT
#369
On October 10 2011 12:47 Days wrote:
So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends


That's just the ladder lock.
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Days
Profile Joined February 2010
United States219 Posts
October 10 2011 03:50 GMT
#370
On October 10 2011 12:49 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:47 Days wrote:
So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends


That's just the ladder lock.


Ah ok thank you. So when does the actual season end?
We buy things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
October 10 2011 03:50 GMT
#371
On October 10 2011 12:07 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Upon learning the ladder locks tomorrow, I've been laddering like crazy this weekend and I got promoted to master right before the deadline!

Anyway, I had kind of a related question. Before I was promoted, I had 0 bonus pool points. After promotion, it said I had 408 points for 1v1. I've never seen this before, is this some new policy or a glitch or something? I'm glad to have them since I will be able to easily reach rank 1 master now, but I thought it was very odd to receive them.


Yes, read the Ladder Guide sticky. Master (and GM) league has a higher bonus pool accumulation rate.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
October 10 2011 03:51 GMT
#372
On October 10 2011 12:50 Days wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:49 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:47 Days wrote:
So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends


That's just the ladder lock.


Ah ok thank you. So when does the actual season end?


It's all right there in the first post -_- Lock is the week of the 10th (so probably the 11th), new season begins and current season ends on the week of the 24th (probably the 25th, 26th for EU).
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ene13
Profile Joined February 2011
50 Posts
October 10 2011 04:24 GMT
#373
Darn it, I thought I would make it to platinum this season, with 960 pts and 60 wins in gold... what a lame system, I better get into plat season 4
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 10 2011 04:48 GMT
#374
So the lock wont be until the 11th? And not 12am on October 10th?
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
October 10 2011 04:49 GMT
#375
Is it saying Milestone awards lock when the ladder does or when it resets? Weird wording.
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reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
October 10 2011 04:54 GMT
#376
i'm personally thrilled with this.

I always felt that positions in the GM league were a little too static, and felt that they should be re-evaluated on a more constant basis.

I'm also for the higher map rotation (hopefully also for better maps), and for the refreshing of the ladder. I haven't been terribly active this season, but it's always good to have a division that's not 90% inactive with only the top 10 or 15 people actually trying to get spots.

The more constant refreshing will knock people out of ladders like that, so i think it'll be better.
moose...indian
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
October 10 2011 04:58 GMT
#377
I spent all weekend watching IPL and didn't ladder. lol
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ene13
Profile Joined February 2011
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:08:04
October 10 2011 05:07 GMT
#378
YOU GUYS!!!! I know this is irrelevant but I made it TO PLAT TODAY!!!!!! after so many wins against bad platinums... my ID is cameler 336 if someone wants to pop some champagne tonight!!!


so... um... ladder isnt locked tonight!
.Noize
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia9 Posts
October 10 2011 05:15 GMT
#379
Am I the only one who doesnt care when the season begins or ends? why does it matter? 2 months seems great new maps every 2 months can only be a good thing
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
October 10 2011 05:42 GMT
#380
i just logged in and gained about 400 bonus pool points for each of my ladder.
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