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Good : -map refreshing -rank refreshing
Bad (sorta): bonus pools for ppl who dont play alot get lost... (Don't know if this a bad thing tho, inactive people get rewarded enough with the rediculous pool already)
Overall view : I think it'll be good to mix in new maps, keeps people coming. And I don't think pro gamers care about the map refreshing too much, they don't play those shitty blizzard maps in tournaments anyways, ladder is more of a mechanics upkeep than strat tester. For the people worried about not getting in your league : If you can't get your old spot in a couple of days, then you probably don't deserve it either.
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i like when seasons change. makes me all tingly inside
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On October 10 2011 06:31 dde wrote: ya because im at 175 bonus pool and only 5bp away from getting kicked out from GM league (2nd place in na) I just dont wanna get kicked out from GM league. (I can only spend 1 or 2 bp per game which is insanely hard for me to dump them too)
this is why blizzard needs to change the gm kick-out system. the lower your mmr, the easier it is to get non-trivial bonus pool spent per win, and therefore the fewer games you have to play to stay in gm.
whereas the top players are always favored and have to mass games to keep their bp down. these players are also the most likely to train privately and/or on multiple ladders/accounts and are the most likely to travel for events, meaning that the best players have arguably the most fragile grandmasters tenure (and those at or around 40-120 gm might be the most stable).
although shorter ladders seasons might also help alleviate this, as long as blizzard doesn't reduce the gm bp cap commensurately.
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Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......Now I have to grind my bonus pool. Thanks Blizzard. T.T
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On October 10 2011 08:44 summer0f89 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 06:31 dde wrote: ya because im at 175 bonus pool and only 5bp away from getting kicked out from GM league (2nd place in na) I just dont wanna get kicked out from GM league. (I can only spend 1 or 2 bp per game which is insanely hard for me to dump them too) this is why blizzard needs to change the gm kick-out system. the lower your mmr, the easier it is to get non-trivial bonus pool spent per win, and therefore the fewer games you have to play to stay in gm. whereas the top players are always favored and have to mass games to keep their bp down. these players are also the most likely to train privately and/or on multiple ladders/accounts and are the most likely to travel for events, meaning that the best players have arguably the most fragile grandmasters tenure (and those at or around 40-120 gm might be the most stable). although shorter ladders seasons might also help alleviate this, as long as blizzard doesn't reduce the gm bp cap commensurately.
If they eliminated the GM kick-out system, then there would be no point in laddering anymore if you were rank 1 masters after the GM people were selected until the next season came out.
Maybe changing the way that you get knocked out of GM would be better?
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On October 10 2011 08:53 envisioN . wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 08:44 summer0f89 wrote:On October 10 2011 06:31 dde wrote: ya because im at 175 bonus pool and only 5bp away from getting kicked out from GM league (2nd place in na) I just dont wanna get kicked out from GM league. (I can only spend 1 or 2 bp per game which is insanely hard for me to dump them too) this is why blizzard needs to change the gm kick-out system. the lower your mmr, the easier it is to get non-trivial bonus pool spent per win, and therefore the fewer games you have to play to stay in gm. whereas the top players are always favored and have to mass games to keep their bp down. these players are also the most likely to train privately and/or on multiple ladders/accounts and are the most likely to travel for events, meaning that the best players have arguably the most fragile grandmasters tenure (and those at or around 40-120 gm might be the most stable). although shorter ladders seasons might also help alleviate this, as long as blizzard doesn't reduce the gm bp cap commensurately. If they eliminated the GM kick-out system, then there would be no point in laddering anymore if you were rank 1 masters after the GM people were selected until the next season came out. Maybe changing the way that you get knocked out of GM would be better?
my first sentence was a recommendation to change it, not get rid of it o_O
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Upon learning the ladder locks tomorrow, I've been laddering like crazy this weekend and I got promoted to master right before the deadline! 
Anyway, I had kind of a related question. Before I was promoted, I had 0 bonus pool points. After promotion, it said I had 408 points for 1v1. I've never seen this before, is this some new policy or a glitch or something? I'm glad to have them since I will be able to easily reach rank 1 master now, but I thought it was very odd to receive them.
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So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends
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On October 10 2011 12:47 Days wrote:So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends 
That's just the ladder lock.
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On October 10 2011 12:49 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:47 Days wrote:So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends  That's just the ladder lock.
Ah ok thank you. So when does the actual season end?
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On October 10 2011 12:07 jdseemoreglass wrote:Upon learning the ladder locks tomorrow, I've been laddering like crazy this weekend and I got promoted to master right before the deadline!  Anyway, I had kind of a related question. Before I was promoted, I had 0 bonus pool points. After promotion, it said I had 408 points for 1v1. I've never seen this before, is this some new policy or a glitch or something? I'm glad to have them since I will be able to easily reach rank 1 master now, but I thought it was very odd to receive them.
Yes, read the Ladder Guide sticky. Master (and GM) league has a higher bonus pool accumulation rate.
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On October 10 2011 12:50 Days wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 12:49 Excalibur_Z wrote:On October 10 2011 12:47 Days wrote:So I'm a little confused, is the actual season ending on october 10th or is it just the ladder lock? I just want to know if I can get a few games in before season ends  That's just the ladder lock. Ah ok thank you. So when does the actual season end?
It's all right there in the first post -_- Lock is the week of the 10th (so probably the 11th), new season begins and current season ends on the week of the 24th (probably the 25th, 26th for EU).
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Darn it, I thought I would make it to platinum this season, with 960 pts and 60 wins in gold... what a lame system, I better get into plat season 4
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So the lock wont be until the 11th? And not 12am on October 10th?
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Is it saying Milestone awards lock when the ladder does or when it resets? Weird wording.
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i'm personally thrilled with this.
I always felt that positions in the GM league were a little too static, and felt that they should be re-evaluated on a more constant basis.
I'm also for the higher map rotation (hopefully also for better maps), and for the refreshing of the ladder. I haven't been terribly active this season, but it's always good to have a division that's not 90% inactive with only the top 10 or 15 people actually trying to get spots.
The more constant refreshing will knock people out of ladders like that, so i think it'll be better.
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I spent all weekend watching IPL and didn't ladder. lol
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YOU GUYS!!!! I know this is irrelevant but I made it TO PLAT TODAY!!!!!! after so many wins against bad platinums... my ID is cameler 336 if someone wants to pop some champagne tonight!!!
so... um... ladder isnt locked tonight!
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Am I the only one who doesnt care when the season begins or ends? why does it matter? 2 months seems great new maps every 2 months can only be a good thing
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i just logged in and gained about 400 bonus pool points for each of my ladder.
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