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DreamHack Winter 2011 StarCraft II - Page 23

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InFusion
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden39 Posts
November 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#441
I had some lag problems during DHI Valencia. None whatsoever during the other dreamhack events (Stockholm, winter, summer).
darkshad30000
Profile Joined November 2011
France111 Posts
November 22 2011 21:30 GMT
#442
I'm looking forward to being thursday!
Satyric
Profile Joined June 2011
68 Posts
November 22 2011 21:38 GMT
#443
On November 23 2011 05:46 tnud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 02:54 Satyric wrote:
On November 23 2011 02:22 eqez wrote:
On November 23 2011 01:48 Satyric wrote:
On November 22 2011 23:55 eqez wrote:
Probably no probelms with the connection. http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/2011/11/22/120-gigabit-at-dhw11/


Stream will probably lag as usual anyway.

As usual? I know there were problems in Valencia...But as usual? I was attending both Stockholm and Summer but what ive heard the streams didnt lag.


All DH 2011 streams have lagged to the extent that it turned into a slideshow instead of a stream. I live in Sweden and I have a 100 mbit connection, so it's nothing wrong on my end. In DHS11 finals everyone watching the stream missed 70% of the first game because of terrible lag, even on 240p.

I've had 0 problems with dreamhack streams.. It's your computer/connection dude. 100/100 doesn't mean shit if you got crap wireless for example.


My router has 300 mbps WAN throughput and gigabit network speed, so no. It is not on my end. Period.
Turntablez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 21:44:26
November 22 2011 21:43 GMT
#444
I really like the Dreamhack events, they are wellmade and very entertaining.

But i have to express a bit of dissapointment, ive seen a trend the past events that you release "big Starcraft 2 names" very early, and the hype begins, and then they drop out 1-2 weeks before the events. Generally they are being replaced by Swedish/European players who simply doesnt have the same skill level.

Last event it was Anypro, Marinekingprime etc.
There must be some way to avoid this?

Myself for example have canceled my Trip to Jönköping because Clide, MC, Killer dropped out, they were the players i wanted to meet basically.

Players should be aware of potential Scheulde problems long before 1 week before the tournament.

EDIT: And MC ofcourse ... :-)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 22 2011 21:48 GMT
#445
Has anybody read this part of the rules?

Heart beat sensor
● The semi finals and the grand final will be played in the DreamArena AMD SAPPHIRE. The four players will need to use a heart beat sensor during the matches.
● The Heart beat sensor will be attached with a stretchable belt around the chest. This will be tried out in advance and attached before the final show begins.

This could be sick!

PS: http://de.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mlm7y/the_final_four_players_at_dreamhack_winter_2011/
Panicc
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany163 Posts
November 22 2011 22:43 GMT
#446
On November 23 2011 06:38 Satyric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 05:46 tnud wrote:
On November 23 2011 02:54 Satyric wrote:
On November 23 2011 02:22 eqez wrote:
On November 23 2011 01:48 Satyric wrote:
On November 22 2011 23:55 eqez wrote:
Probably no probelms with the connection. http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/2011/11/22/120-gigabit-at-dhw11/


Stream will probably lag as usual anyway.

As usual? I know there were problems in Valencia...But as usual? I was attending both Stockholm and Summer but what ive heard the streams didnt lag.


All DH 2011 streams have lagged to the extent that it turned into a slideshow instead of a stream. I live in Sweden and I have a 100 mbit connection, so it's nothing wrong on my end. In DHS11 finals everyone watching the stream missed 70% of the first game because of terrible lag, even on 240p.

I've had 0 problems with dreamhack streams.. It's your computer/connection dude. 100/100 doesn't mean shit if you got crap wireless for example.


My router has 300 mbps WAN throughput and gigabit network speed, so no. It is not on my end. Period.



It is FACT! Are you kind of dumb? If i had not any problem from germany with a shitty 350kb connection then its your fault? :D
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
November 22 2011 22:53 GMT
#447
On November 23 2011 06:43 Turntablez wrote:
I really like the Dreamhack events, they are wellmade and very entertaining.

But i have to express a bit of dissapointment, ive seen a trend the past events that you release "big Starcraft 2 names" very early, and the hype begins, and then they drop out 1-2 weeks before the events. Generally they are being replaced by Swedish/European players who simply doesnt have the same skill level.

Last event it was Anypro, Marinekingprime etc.
There must be some way to avoid this?

Myself for example have canceled my Trip to Jönköping because Clide, MC, Killer dropped out, they were the players i wanted to meet basically.

Players should be aware of potential Scheulde problems long before 1 week before the tournament.

EDIT: And MC ofcourse ... :-)

With SC2 still being rather young, the scene still constantly changes and shifts. Best example is Leenock winning MLG Providence. I don't think anyone saw that coming, just like everyone was baffled when the KraToss MC dropped out of code A after having won 2 or 3 GSL championships.

The Starcraft 2 is very unpredictable and volatile, and it's one of the main reasons why I like it so much. There's a lot of variations in player style and you get to see a lot of new stuff each new tournament.

If anything has a chance of making Esports more mainstream and going beyond its fanbase of "nerds," it's starcraft 2 imo. LoL has the viewer count, but SC2 has the excitement and skill ceiling and most importantly, the casters.

Looking forward to Dreamhack Winter!
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
November 22 2011 22:55 GMT
#448
No Demuslim?

How many tournaments is he going to miss? I've been hearing the EG hype for a year now and he's shown up to basically none of the major tournaments whether due to his arm, travel problems or schedule clashes.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
November 22 2011 22:56 GMT
#449
no xelnaga... nice!
byah!
Satyric
Profile Joined June 2011
68 Posts
November 23 2011 00:45 GMT
#450
On November 23 2011 07:43 Panicc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 06:38 Satyric wrote:
On November 23 2011 05:46 tnud wrote:
On November 23 2011 02:54 Satyric wrote:
On November 23 2011 02:22 eqez wrote:
On November 23 2011 01:48 Satyric wrote:
On November 22 2011 23:55 eqez wrote:
Probably no probelms with the connection. http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/2011/11/22/120-gigabit-at-dhw11/


Stream will probably lag as usual anyway.

As usual? I know there were problems in Valencia...But as usual? I was attending both Stockholm and Summer but what ive heard the streams didnt lag.


All DH 2011 streams have lagged to the extent that it turned into a slideshow instead of a stream. I live in Sweden and I have a 100 mbit connection, so it's nothing wrong on my end. In DHS11 finals everyone watching the stream missed 70% of the first game because of terrible lag, even on 240p.

I've had 0 problems with dreamhack streams.. It's your computer/connection dude. 100/100 doesn't mean shit if you got crap wireless for example.


My router has 300 mbps WAN throughput and gigabit network speed, so no. It is not on my end. Period.



It is FACT! Are you kind of dumb? If i had not any problem from germany with a shitty 350kb connection then its your fault? :D


You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Yes the stream may work for some, but not for everyone. When the stream reaches too many viewers the server gets overloaded, hence throttling bitrate to some viewers. And all of this is very much based on where you live and what ISP you have, because everyone will have different routes to the server. So no, I'm not kind of dumb, you are just clueless.
MistraL958
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Switzerland100 Posts
November 23 2011 09:22 GMT
#451
kind of agree with Mr Satyric... sadly depends a whole load on the ISP and the routing path to the server...
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
November 23 2011 09:30 GMT
#452
Who wouldnt want 200,00 Seks.
"You sons of a silly person"
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 09:35:41
November 23 2011 09:31 GMT
#453
On November 23 2011 09:45 Satyric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 07:43 Panicc wrote:
On November 23 2011 06:38 Satyric wrote:
On November 23 2011 05:46 tnud wrote:
On November 23 2011 02:54 Satyric wrote:
On November 23 2011 02:22 eqez wrote:
On November 23 2011 01:48 Satyric wrote:
On November 22 2011 23:55 eqez wrote:
Probably no probelms with the connection. http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/2011/11/22/120-gigabit-at-dhw11/


Stream will probably lag as usual anyway.

As usual? I know there were problems in Valencia...But as usual? I was attending both Stockholm and Summer but what ive heard the streams didnt lag.


All DH 2011 streams have lagged to the extent that it turned into a slideshow instead of a stream. I live in Sweden and I have a 100 mbit connection, so it's nothing wrong on my end. In DHS11 finals everyone watching the stream missed 70% of the first game because of terrible lag, even on 240p.

I've had 0 problems with dreamhack streams.. It's your computer/connection dude. 100/100 doesn't mean shit if you got crap wireless for example.


My router has 300 mbps WAN throughput and gigabit network speed, so no. It is not on my end. Period.



It is FACT! Are you kind of dumb? If i had not any problem from germany with a shitty 350kb connection then its your fault? :D


You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Yes the stream may work for some, but not for everyone. When the stream reaches too many viewers the server gets overloaded, hence throttling bitrate to some viewers. And all of this is very much based on where you live and what ISP you have, because everyone will have different routes to the server. So no, I'm not kind of dumb, you are just clueless.

You know, you just described how it was indeed a problem on your end. =)

Not specificly your fault, but the problem being your ISP/routing, which is definitely your end and not DHs. DH cant do much else than sending out a boatload of data out on the internet, if you're unable to receive that data at a satisfactory speed, tough luck. What do you expect, a personal cable from DH home to you? =)
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 23 2011 09:41 GMT
#454
The dreamhack tournament have taken place on different locations so the stream have varied. Last winter dreamhack had pretty much flawless streams for most people if I remember correctly so lets hope that will be the case here as well.
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
November 23 2011 09:55 GMT
#455
awesome event!
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
November 23 2011 11:29 GMT
#456
i love the heartbeat sensors

imagine a player scouting an all in in the middle of the map, the pulse must jump up instantly :D
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 11:33:14
November 23 2011 11:32 GMT
#457
Damn I couldn't go there because of work anyway, gogo naniii
Toast and coffe
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 11:40:40
November 23 2011 11:40 GMT
#458
what's up with the "massive" drop-outs and the lack of TL coverage?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Peksi
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 12:07:13
November 23 2011 11:54 GMT
#459
I think this heartbeat sensor thing was discussed way back during the GSL open seasons. It is just an annoyance for the players and doesn't really make any difference for us viewers. I think people said that they tried this in poker and it wasn't a great success. What we need is dramatic OGN-style closeups when something important happens.

Other than that this will be a sick tournament. Hopefully the streams won't lag like they did in DH Valencia.
It can't be helped. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
iKilledYa
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands45 Posts
November 23 2011 11:56 GMT
#460
Sounds like quite the tournament, I'll be rooting for Grubby.
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