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nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
November 04 2011 08:28 GMT
#81
I think proper ergonomic settings would take away half the pain or at least delay it.
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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
November 04 2011 08:30 GMT
#82
CTS is what you have based on what you posted
You sadly need to stop playing now
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Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
November 04 2011 08:31 GMT
#83
I don't understand why people come to TL for medical advice.
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
Thebbeuttiffulland
Profile Joined October 2011
Brazil288 Posts
November 04 2011 08:32 GMT
#84
On September 21 2011 04:43 freetgy wrote:
stop playing and go rest, this is still just a game, where risking your own health is not even worth it in the slightest

if you want to become a professional you will have to know when to train and when to rest.

Even in real sports you will destroy your self buy training like hell without sufficient resting periods.

its not just a game dont mislead him
truth is out there
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 08:57:14
November 04 2011 08:46 GMT
#85
On November 04 2011 17:28 nitdkim wrote:
I think proper ergonomic settings would take away half the pain or at least delay it.


No, ibuprofin will take the pain away and reduce inflammation. The pain will continue as long as he keeps doing what he's doing. Ergonomic's is for prevention, he's past prevention. He has to remove inflammation by taking ibuprofin and ceasing computer use. Allow the nerves running through his wrist to heal. The best way to promote this would be to keep his arm in a neutral position preferably on his side, make sure to not sleep on his arm, and to perhaps wear a wrist brace / elbow pads while sleeping or using the computer(he hasnt explained what nerve is under stress so it could be the ulnar nerve and the problem could be at his elbow from an arm wrest or from sleeping on his arm or at the neck from sleeping on a bad pillow etc). More commonly it would be carpal tunnel and i'd recommend a wrist brace to keep the wrist in a neutral position.

I've talked to doctors before as I had numbness in half my 4th and my pinky for 6 months due to wresting my elbow on an armwrest for 50 or so hours achieving realm first level 80 in World of Warcraft. I recieved some RSI training and trust me, the only fix is taking a break and using ibuprofin for any inflammation, as inflammation will reduce bloodflow and stop healing / do more damage. It's not a solution for someone who wants to continue to go "pro". As ibuprofin does WORK to your liver and should not be used for an extended period of time. If you dont have the time to stop use and allow the nerves in the wrist to heal (at about 1cm a month, muscle damage is pernament, and callouses etc on the nerve are too) then the only option is surgery but atleast for me it's pretty damn hard to get without going to a private institution.

Get a nerve conduction test, a doctor will tell you what the problem is, where it is, and how to deal with it. Taking ibuprofin will help prevent more damage to the nerve from occurring. If theres no numbness, you pretty much have nothing to worry about. It should heal fairly easily. Once you get numbness you start on the muscle damage path and that's bad.

When I was suffering my ulnar nerve entrapment, I watched alot of TV laying down and played alot of console games. Took about two weeks to have no pain, but another 5 months for feeling to return.
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samuraibael
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia294 Posts
November 04 2011 08:52 GMT
#86
I had the same thing a few years ago and tried every solution I could find, including doctors and physio. Everything helped slightly but nothing cured it. The only solution was to stop doing the activity that caused it. I stopped for about 6months, learnt to use the mouse with my left hand, and minimised anything that strained my wrist (driving was another big contributor, I was doing an hour each way to uni).
Eventually I started playing games right handed again but only low stress ones like rpgs. After a while I came back to iccup and played casual bw without problems for a few years, 1-2 games a day. Then sc2 came out. I began playing more and more games a day to climb the ladder. Thats when my old rsi started coming back. The more I played the worse it got, if I slowed down, the pain receeded proportionally. It just seems to me that if you have this condition you have to give up any aspiration of playing games at a high level.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 09:02:01
November 04 2011 09:00 GMT
#87
On November 04 2011 17:52 samuraibael wrote:
I had the same thing a few years ago and tried every solution I could find, including doctors and physio. Everything helped slightly but nothing cured it. The only solution was to stop doing the activity that caused it. I stopped for about 6months, learnt to use the mouse with my left hand, and minimised anything that strained my wrist (driving was another big contributor, I was doing an hour each way to uni).
Eventually I started playing games right handed again but only low stress ones like rpgs. After a while I came back to iccup and played casual bw without problems for a few years, 1-2 games a day. Then sc2 came out. I began playing more and more games a day to climb the ladder. Thats when my old rsi started coming back. The more I played the worse it got, if I slowed down, the pain receeded proportionally. It just seems to me that if you have this condition you have to give up any aspiration of playing games at a high level.


Surgery is an option. Especially for carpal tunnel. But the ligament that gets cut during surgery will heal and become a problem a few again a few years down the line.

6 months was the same time it took me. I went to console games for a while personally ( read above ). But i'm thinking i'm going to try swapping my keyboard and mouse, you're brilliant.

OP i'd recommend you buy an evoluvent 3 vertical mouse (or the new evoluvent 4?). It did wonders for me, and my friend who suffered terribly from carpal tunnel (he almost got the claw!) used this mouse. I used it for everything on the computer except games. Having both mice plugged in at once. It's truely a great product and will help you keeping your wrist in a neutral position while using a computer. It's not bad for games either it's just a little awkward to get used too. It has an avago optical sensor one just like the one in the deathadder!. So it's got no acceleration like those terrible steelseries mice and actually performs quite damn well.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Mr.SoloDolo
Profile Joined June 2011
American Samoa90 Posts
November 04 2011 09:01 GMT
#88
On November 04 2011 17:52 samuraibael wrote:
It just seems to me that if you have this condition you have to give up any aspiration of playing games at a high level.


I don't think thats a very good attitude considering MVP has carpal tunnel in BOTH wrists.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 09:03:03
November 04 2011 09:02 GMT
#89
It can't be said enough, go see a doctor.

EDIT: damn this is an old thread...
I had a good night of sleep.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
November 04 2011 09:02 GMT
#90
On November 04 2011 18:01 Mr.SoloDolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 17:52 samuraibael wrote:
It just seems to me that if you have this condition you have to give up any aspiration of playing games at a high level.


I don't think thats a very good attitude considering MVP has carpal tunnel in BOTH wrists.

but the surgery that can correct carpal tunnel is very common in S. Korea. It's not generally done in NA for example.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
November 04 2011 09:12 GMT
#91
On September 21 2011 04:44 Freeheals wrote:
This might help
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=134466



The above link, and also a mousepad with wrist rest :
http://image.marginup.com/u/u114/37-TP111302.jpg

Been playing games for about 20 years (yup, that old), had some issues with wrist pain 4-5 years ago, then invested in a wrist rest and since then it's never been an issue anymore. Not saying it'd work for everyone or that it's the best long term solution, but that did it for me.

"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
November 04 2011 09:15 GMT
#92
some people already mentioned it and you should listen to them - go see a doctor. If you delay it too long and suffer permanent damage your furture you will be angry at you forever.
keep it deep! @zulison
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