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Onox
United States1072 Posts
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Ansalem
564 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:52 Jibba wrote: Yes, that's why you need to be more flexible. I understand that you view the entire circuit as a season, and that each junction in it should be 100% equal, but that's not how anyone else views it and it holds your product back. We get an inferior product (worse pool play) because of it. You have a bad point system. You have a relatively small prize pool. It's a new event, not game 5 of a 5 game season. You should make the jump and correct those shortcomings. No one from game/events 1-4 will seriously complain about improvements being made mid-season. It's the same kind of rigidity NASL showed last season when they used the wrong map, and forced everyone to play out a bad map for 2 weeks. Adherence to rules and regulations should only go so far. As an admin, it's your call to make if you want to adjust. If you're uncomfortable with it, you could even ask every pool participant if they would mind. I guarantee you'll get 100% yes, for reforming the system mid-season. Something to consider is that because of the way rank points work, it was important for players to continue attending every MLG to keep their pool places until finals. This means players may have passed on other events or had to spend less time practicing for bigger prize pool events. Teams also payed hundreds or thousands of dollars to send their players to every event to keep those positions when they may not have sent them long distance for a chance just to win $5k without the additional importance of gathering points. It's not just that it would seem unfair to players who are performing badly and still have stayed in pool play because of the current design. Others would be unfairly affected as well. | ||
ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
Group B: Group of potential. Solid overall, and not any easy games. Group C: Group of meh, why watch? Group D: Group of DEATH. Probably the hardest MLG group ever? | ||
Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:54 MLG_Adam wrote: Again. Will never happen. If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing. That is the foundation of what you do, and it cannot change on the fly. Hate us for bad seeding, fine. You would hate us more if we made changes at will. This has been a standing policy since 2003. Next year will be the first time in MLG history that a calendar year will be treated as multiple seasons. Unfortunately this year, 2011, is not afforded that luxury. What a load of unqualified statements. "If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing." Seriously? What about every single major sport on the world? If something is going awfully wrong, they change it. A simple seeding revamp doesn't disadvantage ANYONE except the people who clearly don't deserve a pool play seed. Tell me what is unfair about punishing someone going 0-5 3 tournaments in a row. You say we would hate you if you made changes at will. You mean, like the GSL exchange program - that seems like a random change that was introducing 4 overpowered players into the tournament. Fix what ain't broke but please please fix what is broken into pieces. | ||
EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
Wonder if Incontrol is already preparing his familiar "I'm so disappointed in myself for losing every game, next time I will make up for this performance" yadayada speech yet >,> | ||
Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On September 17 2011 08:04 Telcontar wrote: I get where you're coming from, but just sticking with a clearly flawed system because 'that's how you do things' doesn't show much initiative. Yes, you might be compromising your principals, but if it makes it better for 99% of the people out there, why would you not take the leap and change things up? It's not a good thing to have 0 room for flexibility. For example, let's say you guys make a similar mistake next season and things look similar to how it is now (no plan or system is 100% foolproof). That would mean we would have another year of MLGs with a broken system. With only 2 events to go, yeah it's probably too late to change things now, but I hope you guys are more open-minded about mending the rules mid-season next year. next year has shorter seasons iirc | ||
CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
It seems that the Korean domination will go on, the only Question ist who will be 1st and who will gain his Code S spot. | ||
Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
please say yes. | ||
JohnnyBlaze420
Australia814 Posts
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DTBeyond
Germany12 Posts
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Spaceneil8
United States317 Posts
On September 17 2011 08:05 Corrik wrote: I know for a fact there was a rule change in Halo: Reach about gametypes directly before MLG Raleigh... which ended up changing how ties were resolved between teams... which affected which team took first place in a pool at MLG Raleigh. So, there is precedent to change rules mid-season, but I agree it's a bad idea to do so. But that's specific to the rules of a certain game. The seeding and points affects all of mlg's games and the only reason it isn't working as intended is because players that place highly don't return for the next event in sc2. It works pretty well in all of the other games. | ||
ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
On September 17 2011 08:10 DTBeyond wrote: SOCKE U CAN DO IT! hmmmm nope he cant | ||
Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On September 17 2011 08:06 Micket wrote: What a load of unqualified statements. "If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing." Seriously? What about every single major sport on the world? If something is going awfully wrong, they change it. A simple seeding revamp doesn't disadvantage ANYONE except the people who clearly don't deserve a pool play seed. Tell me what is unfair about punishing someone going 0-5 3 tournaments in a row. You say we would hate you if you made changes at will. You mean, like the GSL exchange program - that seems like a random change that was introducing 4 overpowered players into the tournament. Fix what ain't broke but please please fix what is broken into pieces. NFL stayed with their playoff system even when the Seahawks made it in at 7-9 due to the rules. Changing rules midseason is fucked up. They know the system is messed up, they are fixing it for next year. edit: the GSL LXP didn't remove players from pool spots it was an addition to the pool structure. | ||
Skipton
United States707 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Gonna love watching those matches. | ||
mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:26 closter wrote: MC needs that code S spot ![]() omg i didnt even realize that - i hope he wins the tournament and is back in code S next season | ||
Corrik
United States1416 Posts
On September 17 2011 08:10 Spaceneil8 wrote: But that's specific to the rules of a certain game. The seeding and points affects all of mlg's games and the only reason it isn't working as intended is because players that place highly don't return for the next event in sc2. It works pretty well in all of the other games. The seeding isn't working in regards to SC2 because SC2 incorporated the LXP with Koreans during the middle of the season. A seeding change in SC2 would be no different than adding the Korean LXP. Again, though, I must stress that I agree with not changing it midseason. | ||
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Where dat snitch at?36999 Posts
Gogo BoxeR~!. | ||
Sanchez_
Australia40 Posts
On September 17 2011 08:04 Highways wrote: Group A is so piss weak. Group D is insane... Pretty much lol, put any player from A in D and they'd be very lucky to top 3 | ||
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