MLG Orlando Pools Announced - Page 17

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modesttoss

United States221 Posts

September 16 2011 23:12 GMT

#321

So sad to see that Dignitas won't be there, especially Naniwa.

Akash1223

United States91 Posts

September 16 2011 23:12 GMT

#322

Wow, A and C are a complete joke compared to B and D. Was so excited to see July playing but he gets the worst group possible for him :/

soulist

United States932 Posts

September 16 2011 23:12 GMT

#323

Sucks that Naniwa won't be there

. I am attending Orlando and I really wanted to meet him because he is my favorite player. I understand though with him already locked in for the finals and wanting to practice in korea/for blizzcon.

Lomak

United States311 Posts

September 16 2011 23:12 GMT

#324

Holy shit group D.

Will be really interested to see what comes out of there as my ZvP is my worst matchup. Really enjoy watching what pro's are doing there lately.

minhbq299

United Kingdom566 Posts

September 16 2011 23:13 GMT

#325

MC, Nestea, MVP is Code S champion several times, thus they should never go to Code A eventually they stop playing games and attending just for fun if GSL have a system like MLG, people on SotG like Artosis and Day9, Incontrol complain so much about the system in GSL code S, but I think that is much much better than the system in MLG, which most of them are working for and commenting in.
People like TLO, Haypro, Incontrol, Machine should be out for long time ago. I mean oh yeah, some people said they get high rank lol, they can not ranked LOWER than 28th because they are in POOL already, so stop excusing MLG system, and even look at this group, Group A is by far <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Group D or even B, maybe Incontrol make group B look weaker so.
Btw, I can take the underdog, lowest rated player in Group D, Socke, I think he can be the top favorite to win group A.

How is that system sound

Edit: Group C is kind of alright, Ret and Slush they are not bad I think but inconsistent, Rain is a beast actually, he is rank 1 in NA ladder for month with >86% winrate on GM (BcuzofuProS), even though he is not training in Korea anymore. Hongun may look bad in Code S, but he is still consistently Code S ro8 so he would be at least Rain level for sure, Machine single handily make that group look horrible

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Anyway, If you ban me for being unmanner or whatever, but I stated the true here and dont delete my post, put good argument or discussion with me other than ban me like some of abused mod here

Edit 2: oh I forgot how all the good players make a good run like Hero, Ganzi, NaDa, DeMusliM in previous do not even get enough point to pool play, the pool would look much better if they replace some mediocre players.

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Ownos

United States2147 Posts

September 16 2011 23:14 GMT

#326

Group D. Group Death. LOL

NeoDragon

United States15 Posts

September 16 2011 23:14 GMT

#327

man incontrol has it easy except for Slush, Ret, Rain, and Hongun

kiy0

Portugal593 Posts

September 16 2011 23:15 GMT

#328

The only real chance foreigners have is if IdrA somehow doesn't get cheesed in any of his pool play series. If he gets into the winners bracket semis, anything can happen.
Still, with MKP joining from the open bracket, along with Hero, Oz or HwangSin, it's safe to predict Koreans taking like 8 out of top 10 places.

eNtitY~

United States1293 Posts

September 16 2011 23:15 GMT

#329

Pool D O_OOOOO

Deleted User 183001

2939 Posts

September 16 2011 23:16 GMT

#330

Pool D is imba

. Ooo, I'm gonna love this MLG

mechavoc

United States664 Posts

September 16 2011 23:16 GMT

#331

Nice Glad to see Drew back in the pool I bet his time in Korea will show big dividends

Zlasher

United States9129 Posts

September 16 2011 23:16 GMT

#332

I just don't get how Socke can have like 3-4 straight events of 0 points and still be seeded. The system is so confusing.

Zeevo

148 Posts

September 16 2011 23:17 GMT

#333

SOCKE IS ABOUT TO GET A WAKEUP CALL

Ryka

United Kingdom254 Posts

September 16 2011 23:17 GMT

#334

On September 17 2011 08:15 kiy0 wrote:
The only real chance foreigners have is if IdrA somehow doesn't get cheesed in any of his pool play series. If he gets into the winners bracket semis, anything can happen.
Still, with MKP joining from the open bracket, along with Hero, Oz or HwangSin, it's safe to predict Koreans taking like 8 out of top 10 places.

They should take like all of the top 12 at least, almost none of the decent foreigners are attending!

Korinai

Canada413 Posts

September 16 2011 23:17 GMT

#335

Pool of (D)eath Q_Q. Poor Socke, he's going to get destroyed.

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

September 16 2011 23:19 GMT

#336

Wow... That is ridiculous. I guess all the Koreans want to go to Disney World or something. Poor Socke, the only player who hasn't been in Korea for the past year or more. B is probably the second hardest with Bomber and Puma. Sheth and Kiwi aren't any slouches either. Liquid'Hero was 40 points behind Drewbie for the last spot in groups. 6 Terrans (4 are Korean) in the groups too. 8 Zergs (2 Korean), 6 Protoss (2 Korean).

I think Bomber repeats with DRG getting second. I think Puma will do really well too.

Angelbelow

United States3728 Posts

September 16 2011 23:20 GMT

#337

On September 17 2011 08:04 Jibba wrote:

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How about the playoff series game number change? Stern announced they were going from bo5s to bo7s midseason.

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On September 17 2011 08:03 huameng wrote:

On September 17 2011 07:57 Jibba wrote:

On September 17 2011 07:54 MLG_Adam wrote:

On September 17 2011 07:52 Jibba wrote:

On September 17 2011 07:47 MLG_Adam wrote:

On September 17 2011 07:44 Jibba wrote:
MLG needs to be more flexible, and willing to fix their problems mid-season. I don't see any downside to eliminating and revamping the current point system.

I doubt the players hurt by it would complain.

We would never announce a rule and qualification set and change it mid season. It would not be fair to those that competed at the beginning under those rules.

Next year we are revamping the seeds completely.

Yes, that's why you need to be more flexible. I understand that you view the entire circuit as a season, and that each junction in it should be 100% equal, but that's not how anyone else views it and it holds your product back. We get an inferior product (worse pool play) because of it.

You have a bad point system. You have a relatively small prize pool. It's a new event, not game 5 of a 5 game season. You should make the jump and correct those shortcomings. No one from game/events 1-4 will seriously complain about improvements being made mid-season.

Again. Will never happen. If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing. That is the foundation of what you do, and it cannot change on the fly. Hate us for bad seeding, fine. You would hate us more if we made changes at will.

What about the NBA switching balls mid-season after players complained about the new material? The NFL has made mid-season changes as well.

If the NFL sees that a 5-9 team is tied for 1st place in their division, they don't switch them out with a random 9-5 team from some other division to make sure there isn't a blowout in the playoffs. You cannot make a system like MLG did, which highly influences the choices teams make, (to come to as many MLGs as possible, especially the really soft first one) and then abandon it because it isn't giving you the results you want. Sometimes you have to stick with your bad decisions, because to do otherwise would, while giving you a better product for most people, ruin your credibility and trustworthiness.

Certainly MLG is comfortable changing maps and such, which is more in line with your analogy IMO.

That is only if you view it as a single season to begin with, which I'm arguing is the initial mistake. Every major tournament uses placement from past events to determine seeds/invitations to future events. They just don't connect them in this way. DH is the perfect example.

Thats still not an appropriate analogy. Reseeding the teams would be a more appropriate one. As you can see, the NBA will always do this before the season starts.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2537369