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On September 17 2011 08:30 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 06:54 Choboo wrote: Worst MLG ever. Seriously without Naniwa, Sjow and Select foreigners have no chance. The only European on that list except for the liquid guys is Socke T__T gg wp Koreans... wtf lol? Huk had been the highest ranked foreign player at almost every single mlg (except the one idra did well in. So maybe you should revise, unless you consider him a korean.
Naniwa is #1 in terms of points.
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I don't really understand the sympathy for iNcontroL. It's not even the hardest group. Look at Socke's ffs.
If he wants to prove he deserves his seed, he'll perform well in it. If not then well, it'll be a 3rd consecutive 0-5 in a row and he'll still be seeded in the top 16 lol.
Gotta love the MLG system haha.
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idra and boxer to get out of group A~~
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On September 17 2011 08:30 lizzard_warish wrote: I dont understand the pool system, when incontrol goes 0-5 in groups, will he FINALLY be unseeded?
He's seeded for the rest of the season because he came 4th or 5th (not sure) at one of the earlier MLGs when competition wasn't this fierce.
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On September 17 2011 08:28 tsango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 08:13 minhbq299 wrote: MC, Nestea, MVP is Code S champion several times, thus they should never go to Code A eventually they stop playing games and attending just for fun if GSL have a system like MLG, people on SotG like Artosis and Day9, Incontrol complain so much about the system in GSL code S, but I think that is much much better than the system in MLG, which most of them are working for and commenting in. People like TLO, Haypro, Incontrol, Machine should be out for long time ago. I mean oh yeah, some people said they get high rank lol, they can not ranked LOWER than 28th because they are in POOL already.
Interesting point, it's funny the GSL system gets so much criticism when MLG's own ranking system is as bad as it is. With that being said, group D... damn. It's good to see such a strong showing by the Koreans too, so we should end up with some really good games to watch :D HongUn FIGHTING!!! MLG's system gets so much shit. Its why they announced they are changing it next season. I think MLG's system is the most criticized out of any major tournament. Even incontrol said its broken.
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Wow… group D is devastating. The spirit pressure (霊圧) of the players alone is enough to crush Socke. I love the guy to death, but this is the first time that I'm genuinely afraid of following a tournament. If he can put up a fight against murderous giants like these, my respect for him will have increased tenfold, easily. GOOD LUCK, SOCKE!!
iNcontroL seems to get shafted time and time again, too, but that might be because he isn't in a form that puts him into the top20 in the first place. Now maybe he's gotten back to where he was at Broodwar by managing to reap the benefits of the EG house to the full extent. That's certainly something I like to & am excited to see.
IdrA's group on the other hand looks like a cakewalk, haha. There's no challenge at all if he's put the presence of DeMusliM to good use, to prepare to return the favor to Boxer after he had to admit defeat the last time they played against each other.
The encroaching number of Koreans and their unequal distribution among the groups is threatening to make MLG less appealing to me than it used to. But changes to the points system were mentioned and the players in pool play are rather variant, so we'll see how it turns out.
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awesome beyond freaking belief. see MKP being able to win any bracket he ends up in assuming he makes it through the open bracket.
MKP first !!!!
July second!!!
epic epicseries. no idra vs mc matchup though so sad about that.
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On September 17 2011 08:32 auTo.ckc wrote: idra and boxer to get out of group A~~
everyone gets out
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Pool D is insane lol. Poor Socke, but maybe he'll just surprise everyone!
Damn no Sjow, Select and Nani :< Most Koreans in pool play to date!
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On September 17 2011 08:33 karis wrote: awesome beyond freaking belief. see MKP being able to win any bracket he ends up in assuming he makes it through the open bracket.
MKP first !!!!
July second!!!
epic epicseries. no idra vs mc matchup though so sad about that. MKP first? that doesn't make sense
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Wow describing group d as group of death is same as saying "ez"
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On September 17 2011 07:54 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 07:52 Jibba wrote:On September 17 2011 07:47 MLG_Adam wrote:On September 17 2011 07:44 Jibba wrote: MLG needs to be more flexible, and willing to fix their problems mid-season. I don't see any downside to eliminating and revamping the current point system.
I doubt the players hurt by it would complain. We would never announce a rule and qualification set and change it mid season. It would not be fair to those that competed at the beginning under those rules. Next year we are revamping the seeds completely. Yes, that's why you need to be more flexible. I understand that you view the entire circuit as a season, and that each junction in it should be 100% equal, but that's not how anyone else views it and it holds your product back. We get an inferior product (worse pool play) because of it. You have a bad point system. You have a relatively small prize pool. It's a new event, not game 5 of a 5 game season. You should make the jump and correct those shortcomings. No one from game/events 1-4 will seriously complain about improvements being made mid-season. Again. Will never happen. If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing. That is the foundation of what you do, and it cannot change on the fly. Hate us for bad seeding, fine. You would hate us more if we made changes at will. This has been a standing policy since 2003. Next year will be the first time in MLG history that a calendar year will be treated as multiple seasons. Unfortunately this year, 2011, is not afforded that luxury.
Consistancy is a good thing. It's not MLG's fault that the players don't show up to every tournament.
That being said, i think the qualification system would solve a lot of problems including players spending a ton of money in order to travel to compete in the open bracket.
That said, I think you should expand the brackets to 8 groups of 4 with top 2 advancing similar to the world cup style. No extended series rule. In the world cup, if you win against a team 2-0 in the pool play, you don't start 2 goals ahead in the playoffs.
Also, the points system should be a little less top-heavy. Consistancy is more important than getting #1 all the time.
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On September 17 2011 08:30 lizzard_warish wrote: I dont understand the pool system, when incontrol goes 0-5 in groups, will he FINALLY be unseeded?
Dude he went 0-5 last MLG. I think 1-4 the one before that (beat TLO).
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Sick groups and players. Can't wait for it.
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On September 17 2011 08:31 TheHova wrote: I don't really understand the sympathy for iNcontroL. It's not even the hardest group. Look at Socke's ffs.
If he wants to prove he deserves his seed, he'll perform well in it. If not then well, it'll be a 3rd consecutive 0-5 in a row and he'll still be seeded in the top 16 lol.
Gotta love the MLG system haha.
Well, Socke has recently won 2 SCI's in a row, and usually produces good games. His group is much harder, but he'll probably at least not bomb out after constantly doing failed void ray all-ins.
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Poor Socke. DRG, MC, July and Huk. Good luck man :D
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On September 17 2011 08:32 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 08:28 tsango wrote:On September 17 2011 08:13 minhbq299 wrote: MC, Nestea, MVP is Code S champion several times, thus they should never go to Code A eventually they stop playing games and attending just for fun if GSL have a system like MLG, people on SotG like Artosis and Day9, Incontrol complain so much about the system in GSL code S, but I think that is much much better than the system in MLG, which most of them are working for and commenting in. People like TLO, Haypro, Incontrol, Machine should be out for long time ago. I mean oh yeah, some people said they get high rank lol, they can not ranked LOWER than 28th because they are in POOL already.
Interesting point, it's funny the GSL system gets so much criticism when MLG's own ranking system is as bad as it is. With that being said, group D... damn. It's good to see such a strong showing by the Koreans too, so we should end up with some really good games to watch :D HongUn FIGHTING!!! MLG's system gets so much shit. Its why they announced they are changing it next season. I think MLG's system is the most criticized out of any major tournament. Even incontrol said its broken.
I think GSL should get more criticism, but people keep saying "it's just like OSL" and thus that means it's ok?
But yeah, I actually like the general concept of MLG's system, but I do think it needs a little more shake up to keep the pool players relevant as top players.
On that note: "they announced they are changing it next season" <--- did they announce what they would change, or just that they are changing it?
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Ok this looks sick. I may actually go to this tourney instead of Providence since I already have a place to stay so it will cost me a lot less.
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On September 17 2011 08:36 TERRANLOL wrote: Where is liquidHero?
In the open bracket.
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