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MLG Orlando Pools Announced - Page 20

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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 16 2011 23:36 GMT
#381
Group Death wtf
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:38:15
September 16 2011 23:37 GMT
#382
On September 17 2011 08:36 Kieofire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:36 TERRANLOL wrote:
Where is liquidHero?


In the open bracket.


LOL. No offense to incontrol but why is incontrol in the pool play and hero in the open bracket?
It must be based on points and not on previous tournament standing?

I am actually happy to see incontrol in the pool play though. I want to see him be successful
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
September 16 2011 23:37 GMT
#383
On September 17 2011 06:54 k!llua wrote:
Poor socke?

More like poor iNcontroL. He's going to get romped, again.


Maybe because iNcontroL isn't anywhere near the level of all the other players? I'm still surprised he's in pool play. He hasn't done well in any tournaments in the last 6 months. Same to machine.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
TheDiversion
Profile Joined August 2011
United States36 Posts
September 16 2011 23:38 GMT
#384
On September 17 2011 08:37 TERRANLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:36 Kieofire wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:36 TERRANLOL wrote:
Where is liquidHero?


In the open bracket.


LOL. No offense to incontrol but why is incontrol in the pool play and hero in the open bracket?
It must be based on points and not on previous tournament standing?


Well to be fair it's not just InControl that's been underperfoming.. I can easily name 2 others in Pool Play that don't belong there but that's just how the points system works. Good thing they're changing it up next year.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 16 2011 23:38 GMT
#385
On September 17 2011 08:37 TERRANLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:36 Kieofire wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:36 TERRANLOL wrote:
Where is liquidHero?


In the open bracket.


LOL. No offense to incontrol but why is incontrol in the pool play and hero in the open bracket?
It must be based on points and not on previous tournament standing?

Are you not familiar with MLG at all? Its all based on points that build up at each MLG. Last MLG was Hero's first and he is 40 points behind Drewbie, the player in groups with the least amount of points).
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Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
September 16 2011 23:40 GMT
#386
Mvp not coming to Orlando means he'll lose his top16 ranking for Providence.. quite a shame.
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TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
September 16 2011 23:40 GMT
#387
On September 17 2011 08:38 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:37 TERRANLOL wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:36 Kieofire wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:36 TERRANLOL wrote:
Where is liquidHero?


In the open bracket.


LOL. No offense to incontrol but why is incontrol in the pool play and hero in the open bracket?
It must be based on points and not on previous tournament standing?

Are you not familiar with MLG at all? Its all based on points that build up at each MLG. Last MLG was Hero's first and he is 40 points behind Drewbie, the player in groups with the least amount of points).


ahh gotcha. And I've watched a lot of MLG but i'm still learning the rules.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:44:04
September 16 2011 23:41 GMT
#388
On September 17 2011 08:35 Resilient wrote:
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On September 17 2011 08:31 TheHova wrote:
I don't really understand the sympathy for iNcontroL. It's not even the hardest group. Look at Socke's ffs.

If he wants to prove he deserves his seed, he'll perform well in it. If not then well, it'll be a 3rd consecutive 0-5 in a row and he'll still be seeded in the top 16 lol.

Gotta love the MLG system haha.


Well, Socke has recently won 2 SCI's in a row, and usually produces good games. His group is much harder, but he'll probably at least not bomb out after constantly doing failed void ray all-ins.


Hey now, that's not fair. They'll be DT's thrown into the mix in a couple of series too.

And it's not Socke's fault that he's playing much better. I'm sure he'd love to trade groups with iNcontroL if he could. That group D is... :|. It's a dog eat dog world, time to step up Mr iNcontroL. You'll never have a better chance to prove people wrong.

I'm not really excited for this MLG at all compared to past ones. Not many good foreigners compared to the past ones. Koreans will dominate even more. The system makes me sad. I think i'm going to have to sit this one out until the next one or until it gets fixed.
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
September 16 2011 23:41 GMT
#389
God damnit no love for Sage
TheDiversion
Profile Joined August 2011
United States36 Posts
September 16 2011 23:42 GMT
#390
On September 17 2011 08:41 Shalaiyn wrote:
God damnit no love for Sage


SAGE is coming to MLG??
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
September 16 2011 23:42 GMT
#391
hope the patch hits first, I want to see some warp prism ownage.
badog
Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:45:23
September 16 2011 23:43 GMT
#392
Socke actually has it ok considering that there are no Terrans in his group and PvT is a joke right now.

Incontrol is seeded and Hero is not I dont even mlg all my rage
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
September 16 2011 23:43 GMT
#393
On September 17 2011 08:41 Shalaiyn wrote:
God damnit no love for Sage

What has he really done besides 1 all kill? :/. Hongun is more deserving IMO. Though Puzzle is probably the best choice.
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
September 16 2011 23:44 GMT
#394
On September 17 2011 08:34 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 07:54 MLG_Adam wrote:
On September 17 2011 07:52 Jibba wrote:
On September 17 2011 07:47 MLG_Adam wrote:
On September 17 2011 07:44 Jibba wrote:
MLG needs to be more flexible, and willing to fix their problems mid-season. I don't see any downside to eliminating and revamping the current point system.

I doubt the players hurt by it would complain.



We would never announce a rule and qualification set and change it mid season. It would not be fair to those that competed at the beginning under those rules.

Next year we are revamping the seeds completely.

Yes, that's why you need to be more flexible. I understand that you view the entire circuit as a season, and that each junction in it should be 100% equal, but that's not how anyone else views it and it holds your product back. We get an inferior product (worse pool play) because of it.

You have a bad point system. You have a relatively small prize pool. It's a new event, not game 5 of a 5 game season. You should make the jump and correct those shortcomings. No one from game/events 1-4 will seriously complain about improvements being made mid-season.



Again. Will never happen. If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing. That is the foundation of what you do, and it cannot change on the fly. Hate us for bad seeding, fine. You would hate us more if we made changes at will.

This has been a standing policy since 2003. Next year will be the first time in MLG history that a calendar year will be treated as multiple seasons. Unfortunately this year, 2011, is not afforded that luxury.


Consistancy is a good thing. It's not MLG's fault that the players don't show up to every tournament.

That being said, i think the qualification system would solve a lot of problems including players spending a ton of money in order to travel to compete in the open bracket.

That said, I think you should expand the brackets to 8 groups of 4 with top 2 advancing similar to the world cup style. No extended series rule. In the world cup, if you win against a team 2-0 in the pool play, you don't start 2 goals ahead in the playoffs.

Also, the points system should be a little less top-heavy. Consistancy is more important than getting #1 all the time.



I like this idea! World Cup style is awesome and yeah no extended series. Semi-final and final make it Bo5.

Pool A
I hope Idra wins it so he is guaranteed in top 6, he can definitely take on Boxer but I think its 50/50. Just practice 24/7 against Puma and I don't see him losing to the Emperor. Well, even if it's a Korean top 8 there are embres of hope still w Dignitas training in Korea. Look fwd to how they do @ Providence.

Pool B
Don't see Bomber or Puma losing to anyone other than each other.

Pool C
Ret has a decent shot at this, go Liquid!

Pool D
I hope MC tops the Grp and goes on to get Code S come on!!

keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
September 16 2011 23:45 GMT
#395
So much talent in group D !
Justikhar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States56 Posts
September 16 2011 23:45 GMT
#396
That Group D is just ridiculous!! Huk/MC/DRG/July?!?!!? .... Not a single terran in the group either, makin' the P & Z greats kill each other off early
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 23:48:42
September 16 2011 23:45 GMT
#397
This many Koreans and almost no players from EU, this has good potential of being the most korean dominated MLG to date, and that is quiet a feat given the previous MLG:s results xD

Okey their is a a small, small chanse of foreigners doing good. Espically Idra which is in the by far easiest group, if he "only" can win against boxer he is a great spot for taking first place in that pool. The other "real" foreign hopes Kiwi, Ret, HuK + (Sheth/Socke?) are all going to need to put up their freaking A-game every game if they are going to make into top 6-8. Espically if you consider that players like MKP is coming from the open bracket.

I try to be optimstic about foreigners but this time it look gloomier then ever for the foreign community. The fact that so many of the attending foreigners in the pools are not even like top 50 foreigners is still a joke though. Sometime I think this tournament is designed to make foreign community to look bad.

I mean Haypro, Slush, TLO, Machine, inControl, Drewbie... Are u freaking kidding me?
Like when was the last time any of these players put up even a decent perfomance in a any semi large tournament. And to be honest I dont understand why all Koreans attend at these MLG:s, I can only assume that the code S-spot/the global attention is the main reasons.


Cause people ask why the top Europeans dont attend, and to me it is only logical to be honest. To start with is the price pool is almost comically low, like the winner of shoutcraft invititional, which is 75% for fun weekend tournament get 3k, and the winner of MLG get 5k?

To go to a tournament which is have hundreds of players and you have to through an open bracket and then you have to play against like 10+ top top Koreans in the end. Even if you are on freaking fire and you step back and look at it for a moment you have to realise that the chanse for winning that tournament from a pure statistical view is really low. You are going to need to win a lot of freaking hard matches so you better not have a bad 10min play cause it is going to cost u the tournament.

And then it is the air plane ticket forward and back to europe, food and other stuff, I guess it would land around 1.5k? So we have a large investment to join and tournament which packed with fierce competion and if you actually amazingly manage to win you get like what, 3k+ if you withdraw the expenses.

The more I think about the more weird it actually seems, I for sure wouldnt go if I where given those odds ^^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
SnoLys
Profile Joined August 2011
149 Posts
September 16 2011 23:46 GMT
#398
On September 17 2011 08:43 Swad1000 wrote:
Socke actually has it ok considering that there are no Terrans in his group and PvT is a joke right now.

Incontrol is seeded and Hero is not I dont even mlg

HerO was the next in line for Pools. 40 difference points from Drewbie (last one to be seeded).
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
September 16 2011 23:46 GMT
#399
Puma vs MC for code s spot? Wow didn't see that coming o.O
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
September 16 2011 23:46 GMT
#400
On September 17 2011 08:42 TheDiversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 08:41 Shalaiyn wrote:
God damnit no love for Sage


SAGE is coming to MLG??


I think he's referring to sage not coming to MLG.
I could be wrong though
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