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What the hell is up with Group D... Holy...
All the Groups look pretty nice though! I feel like there are some underrated players in there that might make things seem uneven, but I feel like everyone there is quite a performer
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eipxen
23 Posts
What the hell is up with Group D... Holy... All the Groups look pretty nice though! I feel like there are some underrated players in there that might make things seem uneven, but I feel like everyone there is quite a performer | ||
MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:52 Jibba wrote: Yes, that's why you need to be more flexible. I understand that you view the entire circuit as a season, and that each junction in it should be 100% equal, but that's not how anyone else views it and it holds your product back. We get an inferior product (worse pool play) because of it. You have a bad point system. You have a relatively small prize pool. It's a new event, not game 5 of a 5 game season. You should make the jump and correct those shortcomings. No one from game/events 1-4 will seriously complain about improvements being made mid-season. Again. Will never happen. If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing. That is the foundation of what you do, and it cannot change on the fly. Hate us for bad seeding, fine. You would hate us more if we made changes at will. This has been a standing policy since 2003. Next year will be the first time in MLG history that a calendar year will be treated as multiple seasons. Unfortunately this year, 2011, is not afforded that luxury. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:44 Jibba wrote: MLG needs to be more flexible, and willing to fix their problems mid-season. I don't see any downside to eliminating and revamping the current point system. I doubt the players hurt by it would complain. Theres actually a huge downside. Taking a few moments to think about them and they become pretty clear. For example, how does that reflect on the integrity of MLG and how they treat their players? It would be completely unfair to those who have competed in MLGs thus far. Im not just thinking about Incontrol, but TLO, Haypro, Machine, technically I think theyre all deserve to be axed out but the system is already set. Providence marks the end of the first season, so I think its only appropriate and fair that they play out this system since its almost over anyways. It would also be a huge risk to revamp the system because they simply wont know if it will be better or worse. What happens if it turns out to be worse? When the MLG system first came out last year everyone was happy with it (maybe because they didnt fully understand it) but with time, we discover that its unfair and in need or revamping. Thats fine, but theres no need to rush. So far, all the top 8 players from MLG have been fair and deserving so I dont have any issue with riding this one out until next season. | ||
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XnG_777
713 Posts
predicting 1. DRG or MC 3. Huk 4. MKP | ||
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wonderwall
New Zealand695 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:54 XnG_777 wrote: holy shit... predicting 1. DRG or MC 3. Huk 4. MKP The fact that mkp isn't 2nd on your list makes it flawed. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
Group D though -- omgz ... at least it guarantees a 1 non-terran in top 6 o,O | ||
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
Group A is ridiculously weak! ANYONE from group D will be either 1st or 2nd if he was in Group A! | ||
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MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:55 Probe1 wrote: Another MLG win for Bomber. Pool play will be fun though. MC vs bomber finals would be sick imo, terran favored metagame and what most people consider imbalance(;D) hopefully wouldn't ruin the series. Their all time record is really close too. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:54 MLG_Adam wrote: Again. Will never happen. If you cannot rest on your rules, you have nothing. That is the foundation of what you do, and it cannot change on the fly. Hate us for bad seeding, fine. You would hate us more if we made changes at will. What about the NBA switching balls mid-season after players complained about the new material? The NFL has made mid-season changes as well. If a string of bad hits/injuries happen, they will send out a new directive to refs to tighten up games, and will warn players and increase infraction penalties. | ||
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Elite__
Canada976 Posts
hopefully we will see great games :D | ||
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Timerly
Germany511 Posts
I mean A has Boxer and IdrA competing at the top, group B(omber) also has Puma and the unlucky Kiwikaki facing those two guys in PvT, Group C(ould) be full of upsets with somebody like Ret... I'm so excited, lol. The "Group of D" will be the real blast though, can't imagine that not being close and exciting. Man, if my holidays hadn't just started, I'd wish for time speeding up :D | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
It's scary that just from the past three MLGs, 8 koreans get in the top 20 spots. Makes me wonder that if the prize pool was larger, there were a lot more koreans than foreigners in pool play- | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:55 rysecake wrote: The fact that mkp isn't 2nd on your list makes it flawed. I see what you did there. | ||
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MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:57 Jibba wrote: What about the NBA switching balls mid-season after players complained about the new material? The NFL has made mid-season changes as well. If you look back at the NBA example, it was a player health issue. The ball was opening abrasions on the player's hands, causing health, injury, and sanitary concerns. I'm sure there are examples, but most of those examples revolve around degradation of the core competition. If game play was being effected, something that affected outcomes, then it would need to be addressed. However, this is a seeding and qualification concern, and it would not be fair to the players that have competed all season in this structure. | ||
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Spaceneil8
United States317 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:52 Jibba wrote: Yes, that's why you need to be more flexible. I understand that you view the entire circuit as a season, and that each junction in it should be 100% equal, but that's not how anyone else views it and it holds your product back. We get an inferior product (worse pool play) because of it. You have a bad point system. You have a relatively small prize pool. It's a new event, not game 5 of a 5 game season. You should make the jump and correct those shortcomings. No one from game/events 1-4 will seriously complain about improvements being made mid-season. It's the same kind of rigidity NASL showed last season when they used the wrong map, and forced everyone to play out a bad map for 2 weeks. Adherence to rules and regulations should only go so far. As an admin, it's your call to make if you want to adjust. If you're uncomfortable with it, you could even ask every pool participant if they would mind. I guarantee you'll get 100% yes, for reforming the system mid-season. I actually think it would be really unfair to the players that would lose their seed for Nationals (a 120k prize pool) if mlg decided to randomly change the way their points worked. The system is set out for the whole year. Also you need to remember that nationals includes top 32 and not just top 16. Sometimes it's not always about the spectators. | ||
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StarcraftKevin
United States285 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On September 17 2011 07:57 Jibba wrote: What about the NBA switching balls mid-season after players complained about the new material? The NFL has made mid-season changes as well. They changed balls because they were physically hurting the players. Thats not an appropriate analogy. | ||
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