• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:05
CET 11:05
KST 19:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1517 users

A New Build Order Planner - Page 6

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 12 Next All
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
September 01 2011 00:15 GMT
#101
On September 01 2011 09:01 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:
Is there a way to remove drones from the extractor like in the speedling expand build where all drones are removed from gas after researching metabolic boost?


Just click 3 times on "Mineral Drone" (top left) right after you started researching metabolic boost and that should do it.

It also seems like the extractor trick does not work atm, or I am doing something wrong.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
September 01 2011 00:17 GMT
#102
this is sick, just played a virtual game on it, worked as intended. Thank's for this!
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 01 2011 00:24 GMT
#103
One good thing to implement would be to have a "always produce workers" for terran or protoss (not chronoboosted in that case or too complex to implement), with the supply depot auto inserted in the build so they are never any supplyblocks.
In fact, you shouldn't have to ever input manually a supply/pylon/overlord, the planner should calculate those itself (and have options for "building x : non stop production of unit y")
barrykp
Profile Joined August 2010
Ireland174 Posts
September 01 2011 00:30 GMT
#104
This tool is excellent; the layout is much better than others I have used. I hope the numbers are right.

I especially like how I can drop a drone scout in different places in a build and instantly see how it affects everything else, and moving over the timeline lets me check idle larvae numbers.

Nice work.
Lecture me some more on how to play please; I need help.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 01 2011 00:41 GMT
#105
Extractor trick works perfectly, it builds the Extractor for 3 seconds and then cancels it, you have to "pause" until you have 75 resources, then you extractor trick and build a drone at the same time.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
kawaiiryuko
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 00:47:55
September 01 2011 00:47 GMT
#106
There seems to be a bug where the first gas increment after a change to the number of gas workers is 8 instead of 4?

For example:

Build extractor, put 3 workers on gas. The first timer increments gas by 8, when the return from the first worker should be 4. The second increment is 12 (??), then 8 and then 4 (??). Why is this?

http://www.sc2planner.com/#ZoDc

See the gas resource level increments from 0:40 to 0:55.
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
September 01 2011 01:19 GMT
#107
On September 01 2011 09:47 kawaiiryuko wrote:
There seems to be a bug where the first gas increment after a change to the number of gas workers is 8 instead of 4?

For example:

Build extractor, put 3 workers on gas. The first timer increments gas by 8, when the return from the first worker should be 4. The second increment is 12 (??), then 8 and then 4 (??). Why is this?

http://www.sc2planner.com/#ZoDc

See the gas resource level increments from 0:40 to 0:55.


I think some small fluctuations in the amount of resources mined over small timespans are normal, since I doubt the program simulates workers queuing up.
However, I am noticing an inconsistency in the gas/minute results: Liquipedia reports 101-114 gas/min on a 3-worker geyser. In the example you posted in the first minute 104 gas is collected, in the subsequent ones it's 116, which is above the possible maximum, even for a 4-worker geyser.

I believe that from time to time the algorithm makes workers overlap slightly inside the geyser.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
September 01 2011 01:47 GMT
#108
One request..

Any chance you can make it scale with the resolution of the browser? Would be really great to be able to take advantage of my wide screen. Otherwise, this is Amazing!
RuN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Brazil234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 01:51:00
September 01 2011 01:50 GMT
#109
Awesome tool !

#edit, nvm found the awnser
My Portfolio ! http:/www.mgs3d.com
Avan
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil121 Posts
September 01 2011 03:53 GMT
#110
Beautiful, man! I love this thing! And I love you, too! Amazing job!
"I have never tasted Death, Zeratul. Nor shall I". Liquid'HerO FIGHTING!
sicajung
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom297 Posts
September 01 2011 04:04 GMT
#111
Pure Awesomeness! Amazing job TS!
BeyondTheSea
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 05:47:16
September 01 2011 05:34 GMT
#112
First post on Team Liquid. Loved this build order planner and just thought I should pop up with a double extractor trick in the 7 Roach Rush.

http://sc2planner.com/#Zaaaap19oEoEaajoFaaaaaoDachjfaaoHjlllllll

And to reiterate:

On September 01 2011 01:15. DeltaOne wrote:

If extractor trick doesn't work it means you don't have larva/minerals to build another drone during the three seconds. You then need to delay the extractor trick (by inserting pause before) until it does work.


Just select an extractor trick (or two) after you get 10/10 drones and then make 1 drone (or two)-- ignore that it's gray because of insufficient food-- then move the green line marker backwards until it is placed before the extractors. Add wait/time until the drones become colored and that's how it works. Correct me if I'm wrong and yes, it has been stated before, just stating again to make it clearer.
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
September 01 2011 05:44 GMT
#113
Great resource! Now lets collect some nice builds here!
nohbrows
Profile Joined February 2011
United States653 Posts
September 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#114
pretty complex stuff you got here. Got lost trying to figure out how to use it, but it looks really neat and innovative! I like it!
Furthermore, the visualization of builds this way helps add to the appreciation for the strategic depth involved with SC2.
Seizon Senryaku!
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
September 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#115
Very impressive! Good job! : )
BeyondTheSea
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 06:00:08
September 01 2011 05:58 GMT
#116
And to help out with people scrolling to the bottom. Here are the list of build orders from the thread:

DeltaOne
1 Rax Fast Expand
4 Warpgate Push
14 Pool/15 Hatchery

Powster
Powster's 1 gas 1 gate expand (PvT)

Ownos
Ownos' Carrier Rush

BeyondTheSea
7 Roach Rush (double extractor trick)

Which when now I look at it, isn't that much. >.>

Message if you want yours taken off.
Roblin
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden948 Posts
September 01 2011 08:45 GMT
#117
very nice, works almost perfectly for the zerg and protoss (yesterday you could research adrenal glands on hatchery tech , but that might been fixed and in that case, completely perfect), but have anyone mentioned the fact that there is no option for terrans to switch addons between buildings?
I'm better today than I was yesterday!
besez
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden54 Posts
September 01 2011 09:08 GMT
#118
So cool
haypro fighting
Yip12343
Profile Joined December 2010
120 Posts
September 01 2011 09:16 GMT
#119
Wow! Great Tool !!

Gonna play around with it and see what i can do
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
September 01 2011 09:17 GMT
#120
omfg. you are awesome, my friend.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
2025 December Finals
Krystianer vs Classic
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs Ryung
ByuN vs Nicoract
CranKy Ducklings64
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 46
trigger 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38299
GuemChi 1443
Jaedong 906
Larva 701
Hyuk 612
Stork 404
Mong 353
hero 203
Rush 173
sorry 159
[ Show more ]
Sharp 104
Shuttle 96
Pusan 82
ggaemo 76
soO 75
Soma 67
Light 65
ToSsGirL 49
NaDa 30
NotJumperer 24
Terrorterran 17
yabsab 17
JulyZerg 10
Last 6
zelot 5
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe515
League of Legends
JimRising 528
C9.Mang0444
Counter-Strike
summit1g8930
Other Games
Happy398
mouzStarbuck353
Pyrionflax159
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick778
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1796
• Lourlo1327
Upcoming Events
OSC
7h 55m
BSL 21
9h 55m
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
22h 55m
Wardi Open
1d 1h
OSC
2 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
OSC
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.