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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 12:38:15
September 06 2011 12:35 GMT
#2621
Check out this guy

http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=137555

Top of ELO list, yet has pretty average stats and seems to just used 'balanced' strat every game...
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
September 06 2011 12:37 GMT
#2622
Thing is, there are tons of payment models that could get them money without putting someone in advantage.
1. advertisements
2. donations
3. maybe some extra tournaments for those who pay, but this would also be too much at this stage of the game.

This game is new, it has some starcraft in it and that's why it's fun. If it was baseball manager instead of starcraft I wouldn't play it, meaning gameplay isn't really top level.
So making some rash moves about payments could just scare away people. On the other hand, you put donations, people like your idea and they pay for it, you get bigger, invest more in a game, make it better and then think about other payment plans.
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
September 06 2011 12:40 GMT
#2623
On September 06 2011 21:30 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 21:24 hypnoxide wrote:
On September 06 2011 21:13 Baarn wrote:
On September 06 2011 21:09 bLah. wrote:
On September 06 2011 21:05 Baarn wrote:
On September 06 2011 20:46 E1essar wrote:
if only they got some ads so they could upgrade their servers/bandwidth service, or open a paypal donate account...


That or exchange RL currency for in game cash. Maybe 1 euro for $1k in game cash.


This would be shit. I would give them 5-10$ donation but I wouldn't play in an environment in which someone can give 30$ and have like MASSIVE headstart.

some adds at the bottom of the screen and donations would be nice. Maybe some icon near nickname for donators if people want that kind of stuff, or something else purely cosmetic. But buying in game stuff is really no go.



I guess you aren't used to it by now? I play football manager's that you can buy boosters and use it to level, money, morale etc. I'm not upset the other million persons that use the website would and do spend spend RL money. To each their own.

Okay, you're happy being mediocre. Some of us don't want to be bad because we don't want to spend money.


I win cups still with zero investment of RL money. There are literally thousands on at a time and if they all pay why do I still rng and beat better quality teams on a regular basis? I guess the rule of thumb here is to keep exaggerating this so it seems worse than it really is.

I don't really care so much for winning/losing, My SC2 Manager team's WLR is 33.8% and 6/10 of my players lose on the first rounds of Easy A.I. League. Pay-to-win just happens to be an awful system in any game, especially ones where you compete against other players.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
September 06 2011 12:41 GMT
#2624
502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504 502 504

Time for a little break.
Slike
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece127 Posts
September 06 2011 12:45 GMT
#2625
What I wanna ask is do tournaments matter if you dont win or get top places?

My best is my "star" player (2020 ELO ) has made it to RO32 once out of 30 tournaments so Im not really winning anything , I keep entering anyway. Is there a gain to entering tournaments , when you re sure you cant win , or is it just for fun?
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 12:50:54
September 06 2011 12:48 GMT
#2626
Should just train then Slike.
I've decided I should just train and not enter any tournaments except 5v5 tourneys for now.
Due to all the 504's and 502's I better wait with individual tourneys.
Has screwed me from 2010 team ELO to 1880 team ELO today only because I was not able to setup my players and strategies.

edit:
lol just as I write this I forgot I had not set my 5 starting members in 5v5. Due to the overload I played 3 players which are streamers and has no stats at all instead of 3 other ones tt.
Losing pointless ELO makes me cry
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 12:49:17
September 06 2011 12:48 GMT
#2627
On September 06 2011 21:45 Slike wrote:
What I wanna ask is do tournaments matter if you dont win or get top places?

My best is my "star" player (2020 ELO ) has made it to RO32 once out of 30 tournaments so Im not really winning anything , I keep entering anyway. Is there a gain to entering tournaments , when you re sure you cant win , or is it just for fun?


Your team is getting experience which is required to level up. Also you don't have to win a tournament to raise ELO of a player which is also required for team level up.
Once your team levels you gain more options.

On the other hand, if a player is just losing his ELO, then it's better to train him and enter tournaments when he's better.
Slike
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 12:52:41
September 06 2011 12:50 GMT
#2628
Yeah I reckoned so. Didnt seem to be getting any better. Just the random wins vs better opponents at some points and then back to losing at ro 128-64 for my ace. 512-256 for the rest

Anyway , I think there should be something to gain from entering tournaments even if you dont win. Ofc not when you lose first game 0-2 but when you make a decent run and beat some better opponents you should get something like some popularity or some skills , duno ... I like this game a lot but u need to be able to do something without having to wait for hours , unless there is something Im unaware of...
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
September 06 2011 13:05 GMT
#2629
On September 06 2011 21:35 Ryder. wrote:
Check out this guy

http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=137555

Top of ELO list, yet has pretty average stats and seems to just used 'balanced' strat every game...



he had like 5-in-a-row BO15s or something with a high ELO player
and won all of them 8-0 for 30-40 ELO each which really inflated it all

at first i thoguht it was wintrading or something but.... oh well, w/e his call.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
kaetor
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand292 Posts
September 06 2011 13:08 GMT
#2630
Argh my teams popularity is so low! Going to try buy an entertaining streamer even if he isn't the best player.
Can't find a sponsor that doesn't waste training time And I need to buy a team house too. The money would be nice.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:10:24
September 06 2011 13:09 GMT
#2631
On September 06 2011 21:30 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 21:24 hypnoxide wrote:
On September 06 2011 21:13 Baarn wrote:
On September 06 2011 21:09 bLah. wrote:
On September 06 2011 21:05 Baarn wrote:
On September 06 2011 20:46 E1essar wrote:
if only they got some ads so they could upgrade their servers/bandwidth service, or open a paypal donate account...


That or exchange RL currency for in game cash. Maybe 1 euro for $1k in game cash.


This would be shit. I would give them 5-10$ donation but I wouldn't play in an environment in which someone can give 30$ and have like MASSIVE headstart.

some adds at the bottom of the screen and donations would be nice. Maybe some icon near nickname for donators if people want that kind of stuff, or something else purely cosmetic. But buying in game stuff is really no go.



I guess you aren't used to it by now? I play football manager's that you can buy boosters and use it to level, money, morale etc. I'm not upset the other million persons that use the website would and do spend spend RL money. To each their own.

Okay, you're happy being mediocre. Some of us don't want to be bad because we don't want to spend money.


I win cups still with zero investment of RL money. There are literally thousands on at a time and if they all pay why do I still rng and beat better quality teams on a regular basis? I guess the rule of thumb here is to keep exaggerating this so it seems worse than it really is.



well, that's assuming you'll still be beating farmed up teams with what you have right?
you can continue to keep trying to do so, but the fact of the matter is you'll learn about something that's unfair and has happened to you---it will happen to other players, and they simply don't appreciate being unable able to play at their comfort level without trying as hard as you will.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 06 2011 13:11 GMT
#2632
Someone big must have advertised this today. Its been fine past 2 days now its crashing all day oO.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
September 06 2011 13:16 GMT
#2633
On September 06 2011 21:50 Slike wrote:
Yeah I reckoned so. Didnt seem to be getting any better. Just the random wins vs better opponents at some points and then back to losing at ro 128-64 for my ace. 512-256 for the rest

Anyway , I think there should be something to gain from entering tournaments even if you dont win. Ofc not when you lose first game 0-2 but when you make a decent run and beat some better opponents you should get something like some popularity or some skills , duno ... I like this game a lot but u need to be able to do something without having to wait for hours , unless there is something Im unaware of...

Yeah would be great to gain some stats or something for ro64 finishes, if you can't win any tourneys you're pretty much just setting up the training and you don't have to touch the game for days.
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
September 06 2011 13:17 GMT
#2634
been stalking a player for the past hour and it crashes with 1.5 min to go... lost the player ofc.

bah... sucks.
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
September 06 2011 13:27 GMT
#2635
getting players via market is way easier and cheaper, i hold out till lvl 2 with my initial 4 players and now i have bought 6 more for max 15$ with really nice potential :D
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
September 06 2011 13:31 GMT
#2636
For the record, my team's average popularity is 4.6 and my merch income is $173. It seems to vary from time to time, and I think got a bump when I moved up to lvl 1. Anybody know the mechanics behind calculating merchandise income?
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
Colm
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom51 Posts
September 06 2011 13:38 GMT
#2637
Won the EU Esports ^_^

My 15 year old wonderkid.

http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=73888
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
September 06 2011 13:43 GMT
#2638
On September 06 2011 22:38 Colm wrote:
Won the EU Esports ^_^

My 15 year old wonderkid.

http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=73888


nice, he surely has got talent (and no scouting ^^)
kaetor
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:44:54
September 06 2011 13:44 GMT
#2639
On September 06 2011 22:38 Colm wrote:
Won the EU Esports ^_^

My 15 year old wonderkid.

http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=73888

Yeah?! Well my 15 year old took out yours in the silver soliders cup #258!... And then proceeded to lose next round
Though that guy is pretty freaking good, far better then my players
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
September 06 2011 13:45 GMT
#2640
Can't enjoy this game too much anymore. Wayy to luck dependent IMO. Was fun while it lasted.
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