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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
August 18 2011 21:55 GMT
#161
I'm just gonna go ahead and leave a few of these screen caps of "Blizzard don't support SC2" for all you lemmings and bandwagon jumpers.

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branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
August 18 2011 21:55 GMT
#162
On August 19 2011 06:46 stormfoxSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 06:38 jinorazi wrote:
bw did sooooooooooooo well in korea without help from blizzard. bw scene at its prime was bigger than all of current esports put together.

now blizzard has ties with all of broadcasts and whatnot and because of that i guess its not as good as it can be

get out blizzard!

:3

Compare the popularity of the SC2 pro-scene right now compared to one year after SC1 was released. I'll give you three guesses as to which one is bigger, and the first two don't count.


It's not surprising when you consider the hype wave SC2 rode in on. Hell, all SC2 is doing is standing on SC1's shoulders.
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
August 18 2011 21:56 GMT
#163
i really don't think there are that much people who would watch sc2 who already don't. almost everyone who still plays sc2 on the ladder knows about gsl, mlg, blabla. i think it's just more people playing lol, so obviously there will be more people watching lol. i don't think blizzard can do anything, it's just the nature of the game. it's a harder, more competitive game, and it's therefore less fun, sc2 will never have that many players, but it doesn't have to imo.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 18 2011 21:58 GMT
#164
Oh come on guys, It's not like Blizzard is made of money.

ohwait

But yeah I agree with what someone said a few pages back that SC2 really has no competition as an RTS game, compared to the MOBA games.

+ It's not like these million dollar tournaments are going to be a regular thing, they're just hyping their game up and giving it attention. SC2 is starting to have regular 50k-100k tournaments.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
aaronlolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
134 Posts
August 18 2011 21:59 GMT
#165
On top of everything said here Riot can't balance a game well for their lives since Season 1 lol.
At least Blizzard got BW to great balance, SC2 will be the same in due time ( and is already well balanced as is).
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
August 18 2011 21:59 GMT
#166
Because they don't give a fuck about their game being played competitively. They will do low-cost maintenance - like patches, and will advertise the occasional tournament on their website, but nothing beyond that. I'm not even talking about tournaments here, last Blizzcon SC2 tournament was pretty bad for stream watchers anyway. The scene has enough tournaments without their involvement.

However, the lack of proper cross-region play, shared replay viewing, a better system for handling lag and disconnects, and a variety of other BNet 0.2 deficiencies, do make the lives of players and tournament organizers alike a lot harder. That's what hurts the most. When I read about the things Valve have planned for DotA2, it just makes Blizzard look extremely bad in comparison. Don't actually like DotA, and don't care for their 1 million $ tournament, but their pro-esports features sound pretty awesome. At the same time Blizzard can't even produce a good basic interface for custom games or an invisible mode.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 23:13:40
August 18 2011 22:00 GMT
#167
My computer science class organized an online gaming night and had about a dozen titles such as some fighting games, mario kart, age of empires, hon/lol. No Starcraft II, though; most are aware of it, but haven't really given online play a try. I think there's a very good reason for this, as from what I learned, most have maybe tried playing a few times and found the experience frustrating and unclear.

Ask yourself what incentive some random gamer has to learn the very uncompromising SCII multiplayer if he isn't already acquainted with, say, the pro-scene - or at least the notion it's fun to play it competitively. I don't think there is, because SCII is not a good RTS to play online if you don't prescribe to the idea playing to win is fun. And that's something of an acquired taste to be honest.

We all tried to do so in WC3 and Brood War back when we were young and we didn't have any better online games, but nowadays you have so many worthwhile FPS and DotA games that as an RTS you will have a hard time to getting a lot of market share. They're just too old-fashioned.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 22:03:28
August 18 2011 22:02 GMT
#168
Blizzard already supports SC2 as an e-sport in many ways except monetarily. The game is balanced around professional level play, they advertise tournaments, blizzcon. SC2 can flourish on it's own. Valve and Riot are creating massive bubbles around DotA 2 and LoL which will inevitably pop if other outside organizations don't invest.

OP's point is insane.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#169
On August 19 2011 07:02 Tyrant0 wrote:
Blizzard already supports SC2 as an e-sport in many ways except monetarily.


GSL?
/commercial
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 22:07:28
August 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#170
On August 19 2011 07:04 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 07:02 Tyrant0 wrote:
Blizzard already supports SC2 as an e-sport in many ways except monetarily.


GSL?


GSL now has many more sponsors. I don't know if Blizzard still pays for their prize pool, but if they do it only furthers the ridiculousness of this thread.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 18 2011 22:08 GMT
#171
Sigh.
Despite the cute disclaimer, this thread is still a "WAAAAA why can't Blizzard be as good as Riot"

Seriously, I think people should be grateful that Blizzard doesn't have to promote SC2 as much because the community for the most part has stepped in to that role and does a much better job of it.

Look to your right at the ridiculous amounts of online tournaments and tell me that Blizzard needs to help SC2 from growing. They don't.

Besides, they hosted their battlenet invitationals on their websites. Good enough for me.

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
August 18 2011 22:10 GMT
#172
they let other ppl do it for them, and dont take any risks. if the game dies, they make another one.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 22:11:33
August 18 2011 22:11 GMT
#173
On August 19 2011 07:02 Tyrant0 wrote:
Valve and Riot are creating massive bubbles around DotA 2 and LoL which will inevitably pop if other outside organizations don't invest.
.

"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
August 18 2011 22:12 GMT
#174
On August 19 2011 06:55 branflakes14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 06:46 stormfoxSC wrote:
On August 19 2011 06:38 jinorazi wrote:
bw did sooooooooooooo well in korea without help from blizzard. bw scene at its prime was bigger than all of current esports put together.

now blizzard has ties with all of broadcasts and whatnot and because of that i guess its not as good as it can be

get out blizzard!

:3

Compare the popularity of the SC2 pro-scene right now compared to one year after SC1 was released. I'll give you three guesses as to which one is bigger, and the first two don't count.


It's not surprising when you consider the hype wave SC2 rode in on. Hell, all SC2 is doing is standing on SC1's shoulders.


no sc2 is standing on the shoulders of blizzard. blizzard could make a new franchise rts game and it would sell millions. cause blizzard now has a reputation of making amazing games.
Mastertouch
Profile Joined October 2010
United States136 Posts
August 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#175
if blizzard makes 50% of the ad revenue from tournaments/events that are over 5k prize pool, then they should be advertising the tournaments even more. like what the op said
hey hey hey
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
August 18 2011 22:14 GMT
#176
On August 19 2011 07:02 Tyrant0 wrote:
Blizzard already supports SC2 as an e-sport in many ways except monetarily. The game is balanced around professional level play, they advertise tournaments, blizzcon. SC2 can flourish on it's own. Valve and Riot are creating massive bubbles around DotA 2 and LoL which will inevitably pop if other outside organizations don't invest.

OP's point is insane.


massive bubbles? they said the same about sc2 back then (and some still do). anyways, let's judge after mlg raleigh, when we have the viewer counts. if it ends up like dreamhack i can see sc2 losing the mainstage again next season.
rcg
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia47 Posts
August 18 2011 22:17 GMT
#177
Dont put dota2 here. This is the first thing valve has ever done for compettive gaming. Trust me, theyre only ever in it to destroy great competitive games and have never cared about esports.
Putting dota2 as a link to the tourny is just another hype factor for their marketing of the game. Theyre not promoting esports.

Yes i wish blizzard could do more but im just happy that theyre at least doing SOMETHING like attending mlg events etc and listening to feedback. Its only riot that are outliers who try their best to promote their game as an esport title.
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
August 18 2011 22:18 GMT
#178
Also, they are creating 2 expansions to SC2. don't know how much more support you expect them to give.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 22:20:27
August 18 2011 22:19 GMT
#179
Allright, A new thread, i'll just explain my view on this again.

Blizzard does support the E-sports scene, they do announce tournaments on their website and in the gameclient. It just isn't as 'in your face' as LoL does.
They also have their own tourneys, 4 regionals with a 21K pricepool and the actual Blizzcon tourney which will have a far far bigger prizepool.

The viewership doesn't have much to do with promotion.
U want to compare LoL viewership to SC viewership? allright let's do it.
LoL has far more players then SC, according to them they peak @ 500k players at the same time per day. 1,4million unique players.

So it isn't so strange the MOBA genre has more viewers, because it has more players.
They have more players because the games are indeed more casual, which attracts more people.
Most gamers really dislike playing 1v1 starcraft because of the 'hardcore' focus required for it, guess why it attracts less players.

So, yes Blizzard does support their own game well enough, but u can't expect to be bigger then others with a smaller playerbase.
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
August 18 2011 22:20 GMT
#180
On August 19 2011 07:18 stangstang wrote:
Also, they are creating 2 expansions to SC2. don't know how much more support you expect them to give.


haha, that's funny
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