EPTPlayXP article on NASL, S2CON situation - Page 21
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Al Bundy
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On August 15 2011 06:38 AlBundy wrote: Why do you keep comparing NASL to GSL ? I don't see what these leagues have in common. The letters S and L. Comparison pretty much ends there though | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
Between FXO, NASL, and TSL my faith doesn't lie with anything that comes out of sc2con. | ||
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J.E.G.
United States389 Posts
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Gegenschein
Canada107 Posts
More seriously: that sucks. I hope we can still have some good Korean players in the NASL. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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LesPhoques
Canada782 Posts
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
Get Tyler, Haypro, and Artosis  back in it, and I'll still watch those guys. | ||
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Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On August 15 2011 06:38 AlBundy wrote: Why do you keep comparing NASL to GSL ? I don't see what these leagues have in common. Well, Xeris post specificly said, that it was Mr. Chae that declined NASL's offer to pay 2000$ off of the korean teams travel expenses.. I have no idea how Mr. Chae is involved though | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On August 15 2011 07:09 ELA wrote: Well, Xeris post specificly said, that it was Mr. Chae that declined NASL's offer to pay 2000$ off of the korean teams travel expenses.. I have no idea how Mr. Chae is involved though They pay 1000... the other 1000 comes directly out of the players prize money, its not the same. | ||
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macil222
United States113 Posts
On August 15 2011 06:38 AlBundy wrote: Why do you keep comparing NASL to GSL ? I don't see what these leagues have in common. Not sure if you were referring to me, but what I'm comparing are the difficulties for someone overseas to enter in and compete in these tournaments. People love the GSL even though it is nearly impossible for a foreigner to compete without a huge commitment of time and cash for travel and living expenses and yet people are hating the NASL for being too much of a burden on the Koreans when it is actually so much less than other leagues. I just don't see how people can say that the nasl is not worth the burden when you get the chance for a code s prize pool. People say it sucks because the Koreans might fly over and get eliminated in the single elimination bracket. Well if that sucks then why don't the same people have a problem with GSL when Ret goes to play in code a, loses one series, wins nothing and has to wait a month before he would even be allowed to qualify again? So the comparison is not between the leagues so much as it is between the way people perceive each league. To be honest I think most of the hate is because NASL is based in the United States and most everyone hates the United States even when it comes to non political things such as gaming. I can't see any other way there is even a controversy over a group of players running away from already signed contracts. | ||
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johngalt90
United States357 Posts
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
a) Were the contracts for NASL participation in Korean? And even if they were in Korean was a legitimate translator used to ensure proper translation? b) Is it possible for NASL to release a sample contract to the public? c) Who exactly has NASL been talking to? Mr. Chae? The individual teams? They seem to be changing their story every time a statement comes out? :[ | ||
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
On August 15 2011 07:12 johngalt90 wrote: Someone is definitely lying sounds like korea con are the ones not being fully honest sc2 con has no power. it's just a misconception created by negative image carried over from kespa and NASL's accusation which has been proven fasle by everyone. | ||
mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On August 15 2011 07:12 johngalt90 wrote: Someone is definitely lying sounds like korea con are the ones not being fully honest Based on what? | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On August 15 2011 06:37 Slider954 wrote: Using MLG Dallas defeats your own argument because after that fiasco, Sundance came out in public and aired all the 'dirty laundry' regarding what had happened. He explained exactly what the problems were, what caused them and what they were going to do to rectify it. He was very transparent with the fans. Sometimes the laundry needs to be aired out completely, its the only way it will get cleaned. You can do that if you place the blame squarely on yourself, which is what they did after Dallas. If you recall, Sundance himself was ridiculed to pieces on these same forums when he suggested that people should buy more t-shirts in order to get a decent SC2 competition going. Then after Dallas, MLG came clean, placed the blame squarely on themselves, compensated everyone that had paid up to that point, and pretty much everyone came to respect MLG and Sundance for that, to a point where Sundance is now a total hero and everyone is counting down the days till the next MLG event. They actually improved. NASL on the other hand has a history of fuck-ups, not accepting responsibility for them, utterly terrible PR, and a general air of 'what are you whining about, this is only our first season, we are allowed to deliver a sub-par product'. That doesn't get you much credit with your fans/consumers. | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
Stay tuned | ||
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macil222
United States113 Posts
On August 15 2011 07:16 Derez wrote: You can do that if you place the blame squarely on yourself, which is what they did after Dallas. If you recall, Sundance himself was ridiculed to pieces on these same forums when he suggested that people should buy more t-shirts in order to get a decent SC2 competition going. Then after Dallas, MLG came clean, placed the blame squarely on themselves, compensated everyone that had paid up to that point, and pretty much everyone came to respect MLG and Sundance for that, to a point where Sundance is now a total hero and everyone is counting down the days till the next MLG event. They actually improved. NASL on the other hand has a history of fuck-ups, not accepting responsibility for them, utterly terrible PR, and a general air of 'what are you whining about, this is only our first season, we are allowed to deliver a sub-par product'. That doesn't get you much credit with your fans/consumers. Why do people keep bringing up NASL's poor production from first season? So they had poor production and technical problems so that means its ok to sign a contract and then bail out over a week later? | ||
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