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PlayXP article on NASL, S2CON situation - Page 19

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wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#361
On August 15 2011 04:53 Lord_J wrote:
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On August 15 2011 04:42 wats0n wrote:
What people need to understand is that Koreans are not going to assimilate into the global scene. They're perfectly content with the status quo where they don't have contracts, don't get salaries, and stay in their own world. If SC2 gets even a modicum of popularity in Korea then the fad trend there is that everyone will jump on board and then they will have a big league like with Brood War. However, if that doesn't happen they're perfectly fine with a barren landscape as they have now.

People need to understand that Koreans like Fnatic's Rain and EG's Puma are the minority. Guys like sC who would rather just not play NASL are the norm as evidenced by all the Koreans so willingly dropping NASL. Honestly, we would love to have them join us and grow the scene but it's not going to happen as easily if at all like people want it.


sC seems to want to participate in other foreign tournaments, just not NASL. Kind of like BoxeR, NaDa, NaNiwa, ThorZaIN, etc.


Participation and assimilation are different things. And Naniwa and Thorzain don't belong in that sentence. They're fully assimilated into the foreign scene and only had time conflicts with NASL.
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
August 14 2011 20:03 GMT
#362
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just a time issue with Naniwa, he had multiple issues with the way things were done by NASL.
Best in the world at what I do
sYstim
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 14 2011 20:06 GMT
#363
id believe the koreans' statements over the americans anyday
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 20:06 GMT
#364
On August 15 2011 05:03 Slider954 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just a time issue with Naniwa, he had multiple issues with the way things were done by NASL.


You're digressing. Naniwa had an issue outside of assimilation, that's not the point of the argument.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
August 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#365
aww, NASL almost had my sympathy but then had to go throw baseless allegations and acting all amateurish. Back to square one.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
August 14 2011 20:09 GMT
#366
Well seems like this story obviously wasn't as one-sided as it seems. Love how NASL always gets caught up in controversy though.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 20:23:19
August 14 2011 20:09 GMT
#367
On August 14 2011 22:01 flakmonkey wrote:
sC didn't wish to participate in NASL? That doesn't make any sense to me. Why would he attempt to qualify for the tournament in the first place?


Pretty good shot at a huge prizepool as well now that a lot of the big hitters are gone.

Who knows what was said behind closed doors to the wayward teams. The only qualification to that suspicion is that Choya/ FXO said something contradictin the NASL.

On August 15 2011 05:06 sYstim wrote:
id believe the koreans' statements over the americans anyday


It's interesting what sort of bias this forum has against "foreigners."
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 20:10 GMT
#368
On August 15 2011 05:08 Longshank wrote:
aww, NASL almost had my sympathy but then had to go throw baseless allegations and acting all amateurish. Back to square one.


Baseless? They had signed contracts then they proceeded with their league then the Koreans broke their contracts.
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 20:12:50
August 14 2011 20:11 GMT
#369
On August 15 2011 05:06 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:03 Slider954 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just a time issue with Naniwa, he had multiple issues with the way things were done by NASL.


You're digressing. Naniwa had an issue outside of assimilation, that's not the point of the argument.


I'm just pointing out that you said that Naniwa only had time conflicts with NASL and I'm stating that wasn't the case, it wasn't just a time issue. Thats all
Best in the world at what I do
Gelenn
Profile Joined April 2011
United States87 Posts
August 14 2011 20:11 GMT
#370
This whole situation is exactly why the SC2 scene needs some good, quality journalists working to figure out what is actually going on. As long as we rely on official press releases for EVERYTHING, it will always result in "he said, she said" situations.
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 20:12 GMT
#371
On August 15 2011 05:11 Slider954 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:06 wats0n wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:03 Slider954 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just a time issue with Naniwa, he had multiple issues with the way things were done by NASL.


You're digressing. Naniwa had an issue outside of assimilation, that's not the point of the argument.


I'm just pointing out that you said that Naniwa only had time conflicts with NASL and I'm stating that wasn't the case. Thats all


Okay, and I'm stating that's tangential to the argument.
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 20:17:18
August 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#372
On August 15 2011 05:12 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:11 Slider954 wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:06 wats0n wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:03 Slider954 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just a time issue with Naniwa, he had multiple issues with the way things were done by NASL.


You're digressing. Naniwa had an issue outside of assimilation, that's not the point of the argument.


I'm just pointing out that you said that Naniwa only had time conflicts with NASL and I'm stating that wasn't the case. Thats all


Okay, and I'm stating that's tangential to the argument.


Is it really that hard to say oops, my bad I was wrong? Watch, I'll show you how. Yes you are right, this isn't relevant to the topic and I'm wrong for going of an a tangent.
There you see, easy peazy.
Best in the world at what I do
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#373
On August 15 2011 05:14 Slider954 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:12 wats0n wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:11 Slider954 wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:06 wats0n wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:03 Slider954 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just a time issue with Naniwa, he had multiple issues with the way things were done by NASL.


You're digressing. Naniwa had an issue outside of assimilation, that's not the point of the argument.


I'm just pointing out that you said that Naniwa only had time conflicts with NASL and I'm stating that wasn't the case. Thats all


Okay, and I'm stating that's tangential to the argument.


Is it really that hard to say oops, my bad I was wrong?


Can't believe I have to do this...

The "only" you quoted was used in the context of Naniwa and Thorzain's issues being less than assimilation not to mean that their issues were "singularly" limited to time. So that's a misinterpretation on your part. Furthermore, as I stated when I first replied to you, you're ignoring my point to argue a minor detail. You're being pedantic and I never said that I was listing all Naniwa's reasons.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
August 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#374
On August 15 2011 05:10 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:08 Longshank wrote:
aww, NASL almost had my sympathy but then had to go throw baseless allegations and acting all amateurish. Back to square one.


Baseless? They had signed contracts then they proceeded with their league then the Koreans broke their contracts.


Yes and that had me in favor of NASL. But then Xeris accused SC2con for blocking FXO and MVP from participating.
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#375
On August 15 2011 05:18 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:10 wats0n wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:08 Longshank wrote:
aww, NASL almost had my sympathy but then had to go throw baseless allegations and acting all amateurish. Back to square one.


Baseless? They had signed contracts then they proceeded with their league then the Koreans broke their contracts.


Yes and that had me in favor of NASL. But then Xeris accused SC2con for blocking FXO and MVP from participating.


They may have poisoned the waters behind the scenes for all we know. It's sketchy as hell that literally every single Korean would pull out at the exact same time after the league had already started. It's not shocking that they would convince themselves that it was their own decision after they already acted.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#376
This actually doesn't change much, and Xeris has already stated that they got some information wrong. Doesn't change that they all decided to withdraw as the league starts.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Dexx
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
August 14 2011 20:25 GMT
#377
My questions are:

1. Why did so many Koreans take part in the qualifiers, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

2. Why did all Koreans sign the contracts for NASL 2, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

3.Why did all Koreans mysteriously withdraw at the same time for the same reason independently?

4. Why do the Koreans behind this think Westerners are that stupid not to call the bluff?
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 14 2011 20:27 GMT
#378
On August 15 2011 05:25 Dexx wrote:
My questions are:

1. Why did so many Koreans take part in the qualifiers, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

2. Why did all Koreans sign the contracts for NASL 2, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

3.Why did all Koreans mysteriously withdraw at the same time for the same reason independently?

4. Why do the Koreans behind this think Westerners are that stupid not to call the bluff?

season 2 qualifier began when season 1 wasn't over yet. No one at that time know how NASL handled stuffs.
Dexx
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
August 14 2011 20:28 GMT
#379
On August 15 2011 05:27 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:25 Dexx wrote:
My questions are:

1. Why did so many Koreans take part in the qualifiers, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

2. Why did all Koreans sign the contracts for NASL 2, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

3.Why did all Koreans mysteriously withdraw at the same time for the same reason independently?

4. Why do the Koreans behind this think Westerners are that stupid not to call the bluff?

season 2 qualifier began when season 1 wasn't over yet. No one at that time know how NASL handled stuffs.


What did NASL do wrong after Season1?
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#380
On August 15 2011 05:27 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:25 Dexx wrote:
My questions are:

1. Why did so many Koreans take part in the qualifiers, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

2. Why did all Koreans sign the contracts for NASL 2, when they "independently" did not want to take part in NASL 2?

3.Why did all Koreans mysteriously withdraw at the same time for the same reason independently?

4. Why do the Koreans behind this think Westerners are that stupid not to call the bluff?

season 2 qualifier began when season 1 wasn't over yet. No one at that time know how NASL handled stuffs.


And contracts were signed two weeks ago after everyone knows how NASL handles stuffs.
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