EPTFXO leaves sc2con organisation - Page 11
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
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pyaar
United States423 Posts
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Duka08
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 14 2011 15:05 FXOpen wrote: guys I have edited the front. To explain that my posts have nothing to do with the managers on board of sc2con, but more the person who was representing sc2con. Please understand that I have no problem with any team managers, or players. I'm quite relieved to hear that, at least  | ||
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Colonial
United States81 Posts
I'd like to see TSL picked up and supported financially by a foreign team...I'd like to see SK throw their entire weight behind all of oGs instead of just MC and Nada...I'd like to Fnatic pick up a Korean team like zenex or IM or prime. The only real korean teams that should be left untouched are SlayerS and Startale as they are the biggest and most funded it seems. BW has Korean phone companies... SC2 would have Foreign and corporate backed teams. SK Gaming, Fnatic, mTw, EG, coL, Mouz, in the GSTL etc Would be awesome. | ||
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Dayrlan
United States248 Posts
On August 14 2011 15:03 Zlasher wrote: And slowly but surely the whole EG vs Korea drama becomes slightly more balanced. Oh? Did sc2con have something to do with the Puma incident, or is this just an odd generalization about all Koreans? o_O | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
The only information I have seems to be scandalous. Organization is certainly a good thing for ESPORTS. In the foreigner scene it might disrupt the current status quo, but it'd probably be good in the long run. Is sc2con fundamentally broken or can some house cleaning make it a force for good? Does it need to be replaced entirely? Everything about FXO's move here looks really good. I don't know enough about sc2con to put it in a proper context though. | ||
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backtoback
Canada1276 Posts
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SLTR.Maverick
Canada142 Posts
I appreciate the transparency FXO BoSs. Keep up the good work  FXO Fighting!!! | ||
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On August 14 2011 15:03 Golgotha wrote: perfectly normal? get your head out of the sand man. this isnt the NBA, dont use their rules and apply it to SC2. God forbid what you say is "perfectly normal" within SC2, all the pro players on professional teams couldn't stream without restrictions. It's unclear how bad it would be. It would mean no free player streams, true. But it would mean much higher viewership and news coverage for tournaments, meaning bigger prizes, more sponsorship money, etc. That would mean teams were wealthier and competed more for top players. Players would lose stream income but gain salary/prize income in exchange. That might make the tournaments bigger events, more professional, etc. But I wasn't advocating it. I'm just saying it's a normal way that professional sports go about converting the general interest in the sport to a stream of money they can use to actually support themselves, run leagues, etc. That said, even if you do think it's a good idea, this does not sound like the right way to do it. It sounds more like a monopolistic old boys club of broodwar vets withy unwritten rules and vague threats than a professional business model with transparency and fairly negotiated contracts. | ||
Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On August 14 2011 15:07 TDN3 wrote: -Do the players get fined for not having a certain practice hours? About code of conduct, I guess they don't want someone like Idra or CombatEX. I'm fine with that. They tried to be manner and professional. -Boycotting Gomtv's BW is fine to me if they're in competition with Gomtv. Different Organizations or companies competing against each other for TV market. That's just normal. -Well, Nada moving to Gomtv and switching to SC2 would hurt their market share since they're an organization that depends on revenue to feed their employees. Giving Nada bad image is just normal. It happens between foreign players switching teams sometimes. Being an asshole isnt "normal". | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 14 2011 15:10 Kallozar wrote: Well Koreans believe another KESPA should be built to manage the teams etc....I think the future of SC2 lies in foreign teams and their management.....Jason Lake alrdy said coL would pick up the entire MVP team....FXO Korea....EG picking up Puma then maybe replacing their crappy US Roster with an entire Korean team.....I hope Fnatic & SK Gaming get further involed as well...Hopefully mTw and mousesports as well. I'd like to see TSL picked up and supported financially by a foreign team...I'd like to see SK throw their entire weight behind all of oGs instead of just MC and Nada...I'd like to Fnatic pick up a Korean team like zenex or IM or prime. The only real korean teams that should be left untouched are SlayerS and Startale as they are the biggest and most funded it seems. BW has Korean phone companies... SC2 would have Foreign and corporate backed teams. SK Gaming, Fnatic, mTw, EG, coL, Mouz, in the GSTL etc Would be awesome. i dont know if oGs would just throw TL under the bus and be picked up by SK gaming, i only find a flaw in that. if anything im sure oGs would do some type of full partnership with TL and merge as one team | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
Try to get a Korean partner that can help you with understanding the problem. He can be a lawyer, a friend, an expert in esports business or Korean business in general. Obviously that organization wants something from you because you've upset something for them. Perhaps you cost them a number of viewers for some weird reason, maybe you failed to bow in a specific way when you approached them, you never know. That's why you need to employ an expert (at least temporarily) to guide you through. Here is a video that might be helpful to understand the depth of the concept: | ||
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blucher
Sweden10 Posts
I hope mafia-like organisations like the ones FXOBoSs describes soon is gone. | ||
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whateverpeeps
United States214 Posts
Thank you for having the courage to stand up and speak openly. I feel that you are probably not the only one to experience this kind of stuff, but I feel others are being intimidated from speaking out. I hope that this gives courage for those to speak up and abandon an organization that clearly has major issues with how they run things. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
preventing players from streaming seems ridiculous to me when they are devoting so much of their life to SC2 and most are barely getting anything monetary back in return. streaming revenue is a viable alternate source of generating some income and it's been denied to Korean progamers by the SC2con. | ||
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I am sorry, I can't begin streaming again. I belong to the SC2 Association (E/N: 
