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ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
September 06 2011 12:39 GMT
#201
On September 06 2011 21:25 GiftPflanZe wrote:
woud like to do it as well,but im 16 and not over 16 ; ( .


16 is still allowed i think. just like they are movies 16+ but ur allowed to get in when your 16
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
September 06 2011 12:41 GMT
#202
I did it and when completed it brought me to a 404d page. Hope it worked
Try another route paperboy.
Railin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada96 Posts
September 06 2011 13:08 GMT
#203
done, good luck with your research ^^
~~femFxRailin~~ "Sc2 strategies have an interesting history of being developed in Europe, perfected in Korea, and used on unsuspecting Americans" [Tree.Hugger]
SpeCtor
Profile Joined August 2010
233 Posts
September 06 2011 14:01 GMT
#204
completed. Subscribed as well so hopefully will enjoy some updates. good work
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 06 2011 17:13 GMT
#205
We'll be posting updates periodically to the list.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
September 06 2011 18:03 GMT
#206
In case you don't already know, Crushdog5, the APM as measured ingame is based on ingame time, which, on faster, is 1.33 x regular. Therefore, APM must be multiplied by 1.33 to get the actual number of actions per minute.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Shadrak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States490 Posts
September 06 2011 18:18 GMT
#207
Interesting how skewed towards the higher leagues the people participating in this are. Granted, people more involved with the community, and hence more likely to see this, tend to be higher ranked. Still I wonder if uploading a replay is keeping lower leaguers out because they are feel bad having someone look at their play.

Anyway, sending this link to my lower ranked buddies to try to get them to do it
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
September 06 2011 18:23 GMT
#208
On September 07 2011 03:18 Shadrak wrote:
Interesting how skewed towards the higher leagues the people participating in this are. Granted, people more involved with the community, and hence more likely to see this, tend to be higher ranked. Still I wonder if uploading a replay is keeping lower leaguers out because they are feel bad having someone look at their play.

Anyway, sending this link to my lower ranked buddies to try to get them to do it


Well, replays are pretty necessary as that's their primary method of determining skill, as it should be.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
September 06 2011 18:50 GMT
#209
I'm probably going to do it, just want to make sure , is there's any problem if my replay is from an older patch and that my bnet profile doesnt have any game this season?
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Chaves
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Brazil315 Posts
September 06 2011 18:59 GMT
#210
Well, i gonna help too! But not now, cant upload the replay right now cos im at work and supposed to be working xD


When i get home i ll help you for sure, GL !!
Shadrak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States490 Posts
September 06 2011 19:12 GMT
#211
On September 07 2011 03:23 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:18 Shadrak wrote:
Interesting how skewed towards the higher leagues the people participating in this are. Granted, people more involved with the community, and hence more likely to see this, tend to be higher ranked. Still I wonder if uploading a replay is keeping lower leaguers out because they are feel bad having someone look at their play.

Anyway, sending this link to my lower ranked buddies to try to get them to do it


Well, replays are pretty necessary as that's their primary method of determining skill, as it should be.


Oh I'm not saying they shouldn't require them. Just saying it might help explain the high skill-skewed data they are going to get.
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 06 2011 19:22 GMT
#212
On September 07 2011 03:50 CynanMachae wrote:
I'm probably going to do it, just want to make sure , is there's any problem if my replay is from an older patch and that my bnet profile doesnt have any game this season?


Well, newer is better, but if you don't have anything else, go ahead and submit what you have.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
September 06 2011 19:30 GMT
#213
done!
Somethings are just worth fighting for
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
September 06 2011 20:30 GMT
#214
Just played some games 1v1 to get a replay. First two were ZvPs with stalkers, immortals, and archons shitting on me. In the first game he kept on denying bases until switching to voids and finishing me. In the second game I just lost a big army vs big army battle despite having 10 infestors with fungal and neural. Third and final game was a ZvZ vs some dumbass who went fast roach off one base, but only made 3 roaches, and then tried to expand. I already had my expo up and running and just swarmed him with lings.

God I hate 1v1.
#TeamBuLba
RaidenDude
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway21 Posts
September 06 2011 21:48 GMT
#215
Done.
What is the current replay/survey count?
HuK - IdrA - Cella - HayprO - White-Ra - <3
JawHun
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States151 Posts
September 06 2011 23:31 GMT
#216
This is awesome! I have participated! Good luck with the research, and I am awaiting the results with bated breath.
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 07 2011 00:48 GMT
#217
On September 07 2011 06:48 RaidenDude wrote:
Done.
What is the current replay/survey count?


Something in the neighborhood of 2700.

SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
infinitum
Profile Joined April 2011
United States83 Posts
September 07 2011 01:01 GMT
#218
Such a cool idea! good luck with this!
Everything you know was forged from the remnants of a supernova.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
September 07 2011 01:31 GMT
#219
On September 06 2011 17:05 CrushDog5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 12:38 Probulous wrote:
. My question is what is the distribution of responses that you are receiving within each league. Are you getting getting a normal distribution of players or are your responses skewed towards the higher end of the spectrum? It's a gut feel, but what if people who have just entered masters, don't feel they "represent" masters? Do you have a way of ensuring that you get a decent distribution of replays?

Also do you expect to have similar numbers of participants in each league or would you stratify based on blizzard's estimates for each league. For example, Bronze would be expected to have much larger numbers than masters, how is that dealth with?



I'm not sure how you'd tell about the distribution with leagues. You have to pick a specific variable and see how that varies within league. But you'd have no way of knowing if, for example, your sample is mainly high gold vs. low gold. We don't, unfortunately, have access to the MMR for each player, just their league.

My hope isn't for an equal proportion to what Blizzard uses. It's pretty clear that we'll have fewer lower level players than higher level players. It won't be a problem unless we don't have enough low level players to get reliable numbers. It's not ideal that the players that have the most variability in their data are also the least likely to participate. We have around 150 bronze now, and I'll breath a sigh of relief when we hit 200. Unless the data are unexpected noisy (always a possibility), we should be fine. It's true though that we will have better estimates of those leagues with the most participants.


Thanks for your reply! I am no statistician but stats still fascinate me. Particularly in this kind of study, where the shape of the data can influence the outcomes you achieve. I would assume you have posted something on the BNET forums. How is the response from there?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Kaeru
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Sweden552 Posts
September 07 2011 01:42 GMT
#220
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