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http://skillcraft.ca/ -- Go go TL, time to unite and help out! Fill it in and tell your friends!
Hamsterdam
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand59 Posts
September 05 2011 22:14 GMT
#161
Done. Can't wait too see the results from this.
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
September 05 2011 22:23 GMT
#162
Completely painless and easy. Good Luck with all your research!!!!! :D
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
GoatSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 23:26:08
September 05 2011 23:25 GMT
#163
This is awesome!

I did the survey and tried to spread the word as far as my social connections go..

I am quite amazed and fascinated by this initiative and hard work, also it's very nice to see this kind of dedication towards research involving StarCraft.
Never stop fighting!
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
September 05 2011 23:40 GMT
#164
done ^^^^^ sucks that it hasn't received much attention, though.
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
September 05 2011 23:42 GMT
#165
This sounds pretty cool. Maybe someone should link it in some of the public Bnet channels in order to get some lower league players.
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
BrauL
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada197 Posts
September 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#166
Done, how many replays have you guys received so far?
The Barbarian
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 06 2011 01:22 GMT
#167
Wow, surprised that the split between races is so fair, and that there are so many less Terran, since many people I talked to (especially beginners) picked Terran cause they heard it was the easiest to play and they were somewhat used to it cause of the campaign.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 03:40:32
September 06 2011 03:38 GMT
#168
On September 02 2011 05:45 CrushDog5 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On August 24 2011 08:29 State wrote:
Why cap the replays a user can upload to one? Wouldn't it be better for the study if a single user could upload as many as five replays?


Good question, we debated the decision heavily.

There are several reasons:
First, we though that making it easy for people was very important. This study is the first of it's kind, and we thought we'd get a better response if it was simple to do. As it turned out, only half the people that do the study complete all three steps. If we had required multiple replays, it might be even less.

Second, having multiple replays, and particularly different numbers of replays from each person, creates a scenario which is more difficult to analyze for statistical reasons. Because we have never done a mass replay study, we were reluctant to add more complexity to the analysis.

Third, because we are interested primarily in identify league characteristics, rather than individual player characteristics, it can be better to get fewer games from more players.
+ Show Spoiler +

If we have some success with this project, we will likely do followups where players submit many games over the course of a long time. We'll have better measures of individual progress, in that case.

Thanks for participating, and please spread the word. The more participants, the better.


Interesting study, you guys have obviously thought about selection bias. My question is what is the distribution of responses that you are receiving within each league. Are you getting getting a normal distribution of players or are your responses skewed towards the higher end of the spectrum? It's a gut feel, but what if people who have just entered masters, don't feel they "represent" masters? Do you have a way of ensuring that you get a decent distribution of replays?

Also do you expect to have similar numbers of participants in each league or would you stratify based on blizzard's estimates for each league. For example, Bronze would be expected to have much larger numbers than masters, how is that dealth with?

Apologies for the 1001 questions, just interested as my guess is that this study would have a hard time getting a sample, that is actually representative.

Good luck!

Edit:
On September 06 2011 10:22 DystopiaX wrote:
Wow, surprised that the split between races is so fair, and that there are so many less Terran, since many people I talked to (especially beginners) picked Terran cause they heard it was the easiest to play and they were somewhat used to it cause of the campaign.


The real question is whether that distribution is consistent between leagues. I would imagine that terran is over-represented in the lower leagues and via-versa with zerg.
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
September 06 2011 03:58 GMT
#169
I would imagine that the range of players on TL is skewed toward the higher end of the players on battle.net since you have to care about a game a fair bit to be an active participant on a forum and to take this survey.

Also as a SEA player I couldn't figure out how to link to my NA profile (where most of my games are). It is also possible that I loaded the wrong replay and you now have a random pro replay.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Jubeiz
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada23 Posts
September 06 2011 04:06 GMT
#170
Done, interesting study good luck with it.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
September 06 2011 04:08 GMT
#171
Done! Hope you guys get lots of data, this is pretty neat.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 04:40:47
September 06 2011 04:40 GMT
#172
So besides giving us some interesting trends in the data that might benefit people playing starcraft. How do you think this could affect other fields of science / teaching or even sports?

Just curious, not trying to be a dick.
Delinius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
September 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#173
Good luck with the results.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
September 06 2011 05:26 GMT
#174
Done, hope you don't mind a TW profile page
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Sliver
Profile Joined April 2010
United States402 Posts
September 06 2011 05:36 GMT
#175
Done. Hope the replay I uploaded didn't have any terrible BM on my part. t.t
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 06 2011 05:41 GMT
#176
I'll do this when I get home! Good luck on your study.
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CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 06 2011 07:40 GMT
#177
On September 06 2011 14:36 Sliver wrote:
Done. Hope the replay I uploaded didn't have any terrible BM on my part. t.t



BM may correlate with skill, look at Idra.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 06 2011 07:53 GMT
#178
I think you'd get a lot more feedback from the EU community (at least in Germany) if you'd post on sites like readmore.de and taketv.net

TeamLiquid is absolutely the central gathering point for the Starcraft 2 community, but there is a tremendous amount of Europeans who don't really come here.
Mr.Brightside
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia317 Posts
September 06 2011 07:55 GMT
#179
Complete, I didn't forget a replay either. I know this is in the spotlight on TL but is there anyway it can get a little more attention? I think this is a really interesting study for everyone at TL and other people too so the more results the better!
"Makin' Pylons, Makin' Probes, Fightin' Round The World" - Russell Crowe
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 06 2011 08:01 GMT
#180
On September 06 2011 16:53 MrBitter wrote:
I think you'd get a lot more feedback from the EU community (at least in Germany) if you'd post on sites like readmore.de and taketv.net

TeamLiquid is absolutely the central gathering point for the Starcraft 2 community, but there is a tremendous amount of Europeans who don't really come here.



I'll check them out. Thanks for the tip.
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