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CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 02:11:19
September 07 2011 02:10 GMT
#221
On September 07 2011 10:31 Probulous wrote:

Thanks for your reply! I am no statistician but stats still fascinate me. Particularly in this kind of study, where the shape of the data can influence the outcomes you achieve. I would assume you have posted something on the BNET forums. How is the response from there?


Replies have been sparse. So far our biggest source of replays has been Reddit, followed by TL. Now that TL has kindly spotlighted this thread, it will generate an even bigger TL response. No luck yet enticing Husky, or Day[9] to give us a plug. We've basically emailed everyone famous, every team, and every major community. Famous people get tons of email, though, so it's hard to break through. We're still hopeful that someone big will notice the project and throw us a helping hand.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
September 07 2011 05:33 GMT
#222
A couple of questions that just popped up...

1) Do you have any hypotheses that you're testing? (If so, what are they?)
2) Do you verify the league the players are reportedly in? (If not, how do you justify that?)
3) Do you separate the replays by game version? (idem)
4) What do you want to find?
interpolarity
Profile Joined February 2011
United States38 Posts
September 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#223
I wonder if this is all just a scam and people are just testing to see how many people post replays of themselves winning over replays of them losing. Idk which to choose @_@.
JawHun
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States151 Posts
September 07 2011 07:59 GMT
#224
On September 07 2011 15:32 interpolarity wrote:
I wonder if this is all just a scam and people are just testing to see how many people post replays of themselves winning over replays of them losing. Idk which to choose @_@.


I just chose my most recent one, I can't remember if I won or lost...
interpolarity
Profile Joined February 2011
United States38 Posts
September 07 2011 08:13 GMT
#225
I'll just wait til I get home and play a game then. Although TBH I'd probably lean more towards posting one of me winning, or at least save one of me winning anyways. I hardly ever save replays and name them "oh my goodness i lost so hard"
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
September 07 2011 08:38 GMT
#226
done - looking forward to results
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 07 2011 16:09 GMT
#227
On September 07 2011 14:33 Dagobert wrote:
A couple of questions that just popped up...

1) Do you have any hypotheses that you're testing? (If so, what are they?)
2) Do you verify the league the players are reportedly in? (If not, how do you justify that?)
3) Do you separate the replays by game version? (idem)
4) What do you want to find?



The OP has links to the AMA and the interview, which basically answers these questions.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
September 07 2011 16:12 GMT
#228
Will do as soon as I get to my SC computer to upload a rep!
killamane
Profile Joined May 2010
United States138 Posts
September 07 2011 16:40 GMT
#229
awsome ill have at least 2 people doing this. also you guys need to contact koreans for this. im sure they would love to
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
September 07 2011 17:39 GMT
#230
Bam, done. Just boosting the thread now. 20k here you come?
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Bizarro252
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
September 07 2011 18:50 GMT
#231
Submitted, good luck!
MinimalistSC2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
September 07 2011 18:56 GMT
#232
just completed survey! Cant wait to see the results.
There is no such thing as perfection, only improvement.
MinimalistSC2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
September 07 2011 18:59 GMT
#233
I wonder if this is all just a scam and people are just testing to see how many people post replays of themselves winning over replays of them losing. Idk which to choose @_@.


I just used my most recent one. Im pretty sure i won it but i dont really care, i'd rather submit a replay where i played well over one where i played bad but won.
There is no such thing as perfection, only improvement.
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 07 2011 22:14 GMT
#234
On September 07 2011 15:32 interpolarity wrote:
I wonder if this is all just a scam and people are just testing to see how many people post replays of themselves winning over replays of them losing. Idk which to choose @_@.



LOL. I bet if we looked, we'd find you were right. It's a pretty elaborate ruse for such a simple hypothesis though.

Once we did a learning experiment in the lab and we had this participant INSIST that the categories were unlearnable, and that what we were really studying was how long it would take people to get frustrated and quit. It took a while to calm them down and convince them that we weren't trying to trick them at all.

Those damn social psychologists and all their deceptive studies are making everyone paranoid.

SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 23:29:41
September 07 2011 23:28 GMT
#235
On September 08 2011 03:59 MinimalistSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
I wonder if this is all just a scam and people are just testing to see how many people post replays of themselves winning over replays of them losing. Idk which to choose @_@.


I just used my most recent one. Im pretty sure i won it but i dont really care, i'd rather submit a replay where i played well over one where i played bad but won.


Also just used my most recent one. You don't need to do an elaborate study to find people are going to submit data more favorable to themselves rather than less favorable when given the option.

I didn't read the AMAs or interview, but I got the impression they were solely taking statistics on hotkeys, screen movements, APM, and the like. Whether winning or losing, that stuff doesn't change a whole lot.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Xaoz
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany146 Posts
September 07 2011 23:42 GMT
#236
Done Gogo TL! This project sounds pretty interesting btw.
Sharkyloft
Profile Joined December 2010
Colombia69 Posts
September 08 2011 00:47 GMT
#237
Done!
I have a question btw,
Why are you asking for only one replay?
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 07:17:39
September 08 2011 03:30 GMT
#238
I feel like this is going to be highly biased by people selecting which replay they submit. Good luck, though, it's nice to see a serious attempt at something like this. I'm interested to see what you find.
eyzn
Profile Joined January 2011
3 Posts
September 08 2011 10:49 GMT
#239
really painless

gl
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 08 2011 14:22 GMT
#240
On September 08 2011 09:47 Sharkyloft wrote:
Done!
I have a question btw,
Why are you asking for only one replay?



We were worried that if we asked for more players, especially beginners, wouldn't do it.
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