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Fuoeh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands486 Posts
August 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#781
On August 12 2011 09:46 whateverpeeps wrote:
Does anyone have any contact information for the sc2con? I cant find anything. I really, really want to send them an email, crappy online translated and everything.


Haha.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#782
On August 12 2011 09:45 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 09:44 The.Imperator wrote:
You should invite people like Puzzle and San to replace some of those koreans. I've watched their streams and if I remember correctly both of them were wishing to play in foreign tournaments if they would get invited.


+1

Team zenex and nshoseo have immensely talented players and aren't mentioned in the strike, see about them?


The reason they're not mentioned is because they had no players in NASL, they're part of SC2Con so they wouldn't be allowed to play...
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
August 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#783
On August 12 2011 09:36 NASL.tv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 09:34 jakoh wrote:
Even slayers, who are not in sc2con refusing to speak to NASL directly makes me think this is more thatn just a money issue for them. .


SlayerS has nothing to do with this at all. We have spoken directly with Jessica many times, and are on great terms with team SlayerS. They let us know a long time ago the issues they had with NASL and we couldn't come to an agreement with them... all is good!


What was the issue for SlayerS if you don't mind explaining?
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
esre
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland109 Posts
August 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#784
I'm glad they are not playing ,It will let us see more foreign talent playing more matches and winning prizes.

"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show. -Idra"
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 00:48:21
August 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#785
On August 12 2011 09:42 Fuoeh wrote:
Why do you guys think foreigners make any serious chance of winning the NASL. Puma and Rain etc are still in it.

they are very much beatable, Nestea and MVP would need serious meta-gaming, but Puma and Rain arent that good yet, a specially Rain
Stork[gm]
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#786
On August 12 2011 09:44 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 09:41 Serpico wrote:
On August 12 2011 09:39 Talin wrote:
On August 12 2011 09:33 OldManZerg wrote:
On August 12 2011 09:25 DoomsVille wrote:
This isn't about money. That has been made clear over and over by people in this thread.

This is about one of a few things:

1) Koreans trying to squeeze out NASL so that GSL remains number 1
2) They're pissed off at the EG/PuMa thing and they don't want that to repeat
3) They're pissed off at the hours of play and don't want to go through it again
4) They hate the tournament format for the finals and think its a waste of time

There may be other reasons, but those are the ones I can think of.

What I don't understand is why they went through the trouble of giving NASL an ultimatum. They clearly had no intention of competing to begin with. NASL has basically agreed to cover all travel costs...


Bah, you're just speculating. You don't know their minds or motives.


Speculation is the only remaining option when what has been announced as the reason doesn't seem quite convincing.

If the decision wasn't political in nature, I'm pretty sure sc2con wouldn't be negotiating and players would just drop out one by one on their own and decide not to apply / play.

Again, speculating about things you dont understand is reckless.


That's the nature of speculation though.

If I did understand them (entirely), then it wouldn't be speculation in the first place.

Yes...and it would just be prudent to wait for someone that knew about the situation to inform you.
DEF.Sins
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland22 Posts
August 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#787
Good they dont deserve to be in America let alone NASL

User was temp banned for this post.
Work hard play hard
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
August 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#788
On August 12 2011 09:40 NASAmoose wrote:
If they want to play in our tournaments, then pay to come.
I don't see GOMTV paying foreigners' air fare, even ones who have earned their spots.
Disappointing, but I won't miss them. Xenophobia or bust, yo.


wrong. gomtv has help many foreigner get to play in the gsl
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
August 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#789
Let's wait to see sc2 cons answer first.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#790
On August 12 2011 09:47 Shaetan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 09:36 NASL.tv wrote:
On August 12 2011 09:34 jakoh wrote:
Even slayers, who are not in sc2con refusing to speak to NASL directly makes me think this is more thatn just a money issue for them. .


SlayerS has nothing to do with this at all. We have spoken directly with Jessica many times, and are on great terms with team SlayerS. They let us know a long time ago the issues they had with NASL and we couldn't come to an agreement with them... all is good!


What was the issue for SlayerS if you don't mind explaining?


The same/similar issues as the other teams had. Was explained somewhere already
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Fuoeh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands486 Posts
August 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#791
On August 12 2011 09:47 DEF.Sins wrote:
Good they dont deserve to be in America let alone NASL


And you don't either!! lol!!!
Thewildfish
Profile Joined September 2010
United States113 Posts
August 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#792
invite huk <3 <3
zantomun
Profile Joined June 2011
United States37 Posts
August 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#793
On August 12 2011 09:47 Shaetan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 09:36 NASL.tv wrote:
On August 12 2011 09:34 jakoh wrote:
Even slayers, who are not in sc2con refusing to speak to NASL directly makes me think this is more thatn just a money issue for them. .


SlayerS has nothing to do with this at all. We have spoken directly with Jessica many times, and are on great terms with team SlayerS. They let us know a long time ago the issues they had with NASL and we couldn't come to an agreement with them... all is good!


What was the issue for SlayerS if you don't mind explaining?

They already said that it was because of similar issues, but unrelated to sc2con's decision
So probably didn't want to pay so much out of their own pocket to fly out to the US
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
August 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#794
Prize pools don't pay for planes and hotels. Event prize money seems to be a good performance bonus for those whom are on a team; and those without incur losses at most LANs.

I hope that the Korean teams are soon too able to become revenue generating businesses so that they may send their players to international events without event promoters having to pave a golden road for them to attend.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#795
Maybe they ask for insurance money in case their players got poached.
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
August 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#796
On August 12 2011 09:47 DEF.Sins wrote:
Good they dont deserve to be in America let alone NASL


By that logic, foreigners don't deserve to be in GSL.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
August 12 2011 00:50 GMT
#797
Bummer. Quality of NASL just went down which is sad.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
UnknownReclaimer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
August 12 2011 00:50 GMT
#798
That is pretty stupid. I hope that there is some other concerns that the Koreans had. Otherwise it is pretty pathetic that they withdrew, especially after filming had already started. 2 grand per player should be plenty, especially considering they could all book their flights months in advance and go as a big group for a discount. Seems pretty silly to me.
"And when he pops out.. WE SHIT ON HIM! HAHAHAHA!" - Geoff Robinson
deepfield1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States373 Posts
August 12 2011 00:51 GMT
#799
good call by NASL, they would have to bring over 16 koreans for season 2 finals lol..

thats a fucking fortune
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
August 12 2011 00:51 GMT
#800
Wow that's a bummer for sure. But at the same time, it's good for foreigner scene. But still finals are gonna be boring without a korean. Blame EG i guess lol
@ggmonx
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