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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
On September 02 2011 21:11 paradoxOO9 wrote: His mechanics are looking pretty good now, better than mine easily  Why is it that Korean zergs don't connect their main and natural with creep and always extractor trick?Its more important to creep the fighting ground early on (slow lings/roaches) than to connect the bases. | ||
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
On September 03 2011 00:11 ZAiNs wrote: This is just a myth, it's harder but I really doubt it's that much harder. Common sense would tell you it's a Lot harder. Do you think it's harder to become a player on your Country's Olympic Hockey team in Italy, or in Canada? In North America You've got people like me who have no RTS experience, starting only with SC2 when it came out, in Diamond. In Korea you're going to have people who've been playing and watching and SC:BW or War3 for 10 years, since they were little kids. I don't think people are exaggerating when they say that there's Gold and Plats in Korea who'd beat the hell out of Diamonds in NA. On top of it all, Master's is about 4% of people in America's server, but 2.5% in Korea. As for the whole 'Plat to Master's in 5 days'... We saw him qualify by winning 5 out of 5. So it likely placed him wrong to begin with. We don't know if he then worked up from there, if he started another account to get re-placed etc... I'm torn, on if I want to watch the Code A qualifiers themselves over the next couple of days, or if I want to wait until next Friday and watch Episode 5 Even if he's like, GrandMaster, it's a pretty tall order to make Code A, they said it was like, 576 people...and only a few spots. I haven't seen if anyone's linked this, but clearly, this is him: http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2343656/YellOw#alltime Looks pretty much like he already knew damn well he was Master's level, and just waited until August to begin using his real name and go public. | ||
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iyoume
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:10 iyoume wrote: good ep! but it made me sad when they had him play slog and they said he wasn't good actually they said first that he's on another level than yellow and just trying to give him a bit of confidence by saying he's not that good. They certainly dont consider him top tier but know that he's pretty ok for korean standards. | ||
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Gargara
Romania150 Posts
On September 02 2011 23:16 Jakkerr wrote: I skipped 50% of the episode. The first 15 minutes with MKP were insanely boring, the rest was fun :D Lol, me too. Was really annoying seeing him laugh so hard at every yellow joke... Then I was wondering why the episode was so short. | ||
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dala
Sweden477 Posts
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Steveh
United States112 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
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1st_Panzer_Div.
United States621 Posts
Hope Yellow makes it to code A! And then joins Zenex. | ||
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JustPassingBy
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Mczeppo
Germany319 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:33 Gargara wrote: Lol, me too. Was really annoying seeing him laugh so hard at every yellow joke... Then I was wondering why the episode was so short. What's wrong with laughing. MKP is also very young and it was quite a nice experience for him for sure... What's wrong with you | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:33 Gargara wrote: Lol, me too. Was really annoying seeing him laugh so hard at every yellow joke... Then I was wondering why the episode was so short. Some korean posters here have already remarked that about 80% of the jokes are either lost in translation, or not translated at all. | ||
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entrust
Poland196 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:09 EnderSword wrote: Common sense would tell you it's a Lot harder. Do you think it's harder to become a player on your Country's Olympic Hockey team in Italy, or in Canada? In North America You've got people like me who have no RTS experience, starting only with SC2 when it came out, in Diamond. In Korea you're going to have people who've been playing and watching and SC:BW or War3 for 10 years, since they were little kids. I don't think people are exaggerating when they say that there's Gold and Plats in Korea who'd beat the hell out of Diamonds in NA. On top of it all, Master's is about 4% of people in America's server, but 2.5% in Korea. As for the whole 'Plat to Master's in 5 days'... We saw him qualify by winning 5 out of 5. So it likely placed him wrong to begin with. We don't know if he then worked up from there, if he started another account to get re-placed etc... I'm torn, on if I want to watch the Code A qualifiers themselves over the next couple of days, or if I want to wait until next Friday and watch Episode 5 Even if he's like, GrandMaster, it's a pretty tall order to make Code A, they said it was like, 576 people...and only a few spots. I haven't seen if anyone's linked this, but clearly, this is him: http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2343656/YellOw#alltime Looks pretty much like he already knew damn well he was Master's level, and just waited until August to begin using his real name and go public. duuuude What you say is hard to believe. Sase is GM korea and I've never seen a highly skilled game from him. Either on GOMtv or his stream. (not that I want to discredit Sase he is still awesome player) I feel your analogy somehow, but you talk about one of top pro gamers of all time. Ur post get thumb down from me, you put misleading information and I could go really long about all what you wrote, but I'm just gonna say that I HIGHLY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU. | ||
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:09 EnderSword wrote: Common sense would tell you it's a Lot harder. Do you think it's harder to become a player on your Country's Olympic Hockey team in Italy, or in Canada? In North America You've got people like me who have no RTS experience, starting only with SC2 when it came out, in Diamond. In Korea you're going to have people who've been playing and watching and SC:BW or War3 for 10 years, since they were little kids. I don't think people are exaggerating when they say that there's Gold and Plats in Korea who'd beat the hell out of Diamonds in NA. On top of it all, Master's is about 4% of people in America's server, but 2.5% in Korea. As for the whole 'Plat to Master's in 5 days'... We saw him qualify by winning 5 out of 5. So it likely placed him wrong to begin with. We don't know if he then worked up from there, if he started another account to get re-placed etc... I'm torn, on if I want to watch the Code A qualifiers themselves over the next couple of days, or if I want to wait until next Friday and watch Episode 5 Even if he's like, GrandMaster, it's a pretty tall order to make Code A, they said it was like, 576 people...and only a few spots. I haven't seen if anyone's linked this, but clearly, this is him: http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2343656/YellOw#alltime Looks pretty much like he already knew damn well he was Master's level, and just waited until August to begin using his real name and go public. I have a master account on NA one on EU and one on KR. I think we can all agree that KR master is "harder to get" but every time I read a thing such as "a gold korean would beat a diamond EU" that is just ridiculous - those are myths and I am not sure whose fault is.. now people believe this absurdity. KR gold are REALLY bad, same as KR plat. Diamond KR seemed better than NA/EU Diamond though, but if you truly are in master, it is just a matter of time before you get it, maybe you will find few harder diamond players but that is about it. There's a ton of streamers now that play in KR and as you can see they are all pretty high placed in KR master (destiny, kawaiirice, sterling etc.etc.) - I myself have friends from real life and some that I met online that are both masters in NA/EU and KR. So "I don't think people are exaggerating when they say that there's Gold and Plats in Korea who'd beat the hell out of Diamonds in NA. " <<<-- That is totally false and hilarious to read. I think only people who are not in masters may believe so. That is why I believe Blizzard did a great job with the league-skill measure. Maybe the only region where I could see this be true is SEA because there are so few players.. that master there is absolutely not serious as NA/EU or KR/TW - also, from playing there few times it appears that their skill level is pretty bad compared to any other server. Sorry if it seems like a rant but I am so tired of seeing people like you posting around these absurd myths about KR goldies killing NA masters... it makes me laugh and face palm at the same time...  Going back on topic.. I absolutely love the show. The subs were much better this time and Yellow seemed to care way more. I also love the part where MKP showed up <3 I hope he does well in GSL qualifiers.. :D | ||
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Dajibjaw
Canada83 Posts
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
I have a master account on NA one on EU and one on KR. I think we can all agree that KR master is "harder to get" but every time I read a thing such as "a gold korean would beat a diamond EU" that is just ridiculous - those are myths and I am not sure whose fault is.. now people believe this absurdity. It's a 'Myth' that originated from people making accounts in both places and finding it to be the Case. In America's server, Master's is 3.7%, Diamond is 9.6% and Plat is 18.4% - So the top 31.7% is Plat+ In Korea: Master's is 2.5%, Diamond is 6.5% and Plat is 14.3% - So only the top 23.2% is Plat+ So even if we assumed completely equal skill levels of the two populations, It would still be true. But then if you add in that everyone says KR is harder, and you've very Easily got Plats and Golds who'd be beating Diamonds. No one said golds would beat Masters NA...But if you don't think some Korean Gold and Plats would wipe the floor with NA Diamond...you're just absolutely on crack. The KR ranks are much more exclusive, and the average skill level is simply much higher. Bringing Masters and Pro players into it simply doesn't address it....at all....because Pro players have the exact background that most of the NA people do not have. | ||
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:09 EnderSword wrote: Common sense would tell you it's a Lot harder. Do you think it's harder to become a player on your Country's Olympic Hockey team in Italy, or in Canada? In North America You've got people like me who have no RTS experience, starting only with SC2 when it came out, in Diamond. In Korea you're going to have people who've been playing and watching and SC:BW or War3 for 10 years, since they were little kids. I don't think people are exaggerating when they say that there's Gold and Plats in Korea who'd beat the hell out of Diamonds in NA. On top of it all, Master's is about 4% of people in America's server, but 2.5% in Korea. As for the whole 'Plat to Master's in 5 days'... We saw him qualify by winning 5 out of 5. So it likely placed him wrong to begin with. We don't know if he then worked up from there, if he started another account to get re-placed etc... I'm torn, on if I want to watch the Code A qualifiers themselves over the next couple of days, or if I want to wait until next Friday and watch Episode 5 Even if he's like, GrandMaster, it's a pretty tall order to make Code A, they said it was like, 576 people...and only a few spots. I haven't seen if anyone's linked this, but clearly, this is him: http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2343656/YellOw#alltime Looks pretty much like he already knew damn well he was Master's level, and just waited until August to begin using his real name and go public. you're making strawmen. Korean masters cannot be compared to olympic teams (if it was korean progamers I could understand the analogy). | ||
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
On September 03 2011 06:07 EnderSword wrote: It's a 'Myth' that originated from people making accounts in both places and finding it to be the Case. In America's server, Master's is 3.7%, Diamond is 9.6% and Plat is 18.4% - So the top 31.7% is Plat+ In Korea: Master's is 2.5%, Diamond is 6.5% and Plat is 14.3% - So only the top 23.2% is Plat+ So even if we assumed completely equal skill levels of the two populations, It would still be true. But then if you add in that everyone says KR is harder, and you've very Easily got Plats and Golds who'd be beating Diamonds. No one said golds would beat Masters NA...But if you don't think some Korean Gold and Plats would wipe the floor with NA Diamond...you're just absolutely on crack. The KR ranks are much more exclusive, and the average skill level is simply much higher. Bringing Masters and Pro players into it simply doesn't address it....at all....because Pro players have the exact background that most of the NA people do not have. No this isn't correct at all, the leagues are fixed at being 20% increments (save masters & GM) of active players no matter what server you are on, the stats you are referring to are the inaccurate sc2ranks stats which don't consider whether a player is still active or not. | ||
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