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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On July 28 2011 16:23 Perfi wrote: Agreed. I cannot imagine anyone playing Starcraft for hats. Well, I think that's the part where you've misunderstood. People wont play for the hats. But giving hats to people who play certainly won't make them quit. May even give them one more thing to like about the game. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On July 28 2011 16:08 insaneMicro wrote: I just think Starcraft should draw it's playerbase from it's competitiveness, nothing else. Worked for BW, after all. It worked so well for BW, that when all the (foreign) pros switched to SC2, they were disgusted by the small size of the SC2 community and playerbase. The more people that play and keep interest, the more people end up watching content. The competitive scene will thrive regardless of these features. Blizzard didn't design BW for cutthroat competition, but it ended up that way because people found it fun to play before becoming competitive. If something is competitive first, like SC2 seems to be, what incentive do players have to play if they can't play competitively? | ||
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tarodotoxin
United States110 Posts
....maybe have 3 chances to get a new color. like level 20, 30, and 40. i really like this idea. i can see Blizzard doing something like this in HotS | ||
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EGfanBoi!DemuFtw
United Kingdom46 Posts
That is, if I work hard in World of Warcraft, I level, and gain access to many more quest, new gear, and more zones. Leveling from 1-85 provides hundreds of DAYS of play time worth of content If anything like World of Warcraft happens in sc2 i will never play/watch the dam game again. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
However, this would take much time to be implemented and therefore I'd rather not have it. Also, games are already way too full with senseless stuff. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On July 28 2011 16:31 EGfanBoi!DemuFtw wrote: If anything like World of Warcraft happens in sc2 i will never play/watch the dam game again. D: again, people who read 2 sentences then comment. I don't understand how you people manage to go unbanned. On July 28 2011 16:25 insaneMicro wrote: Can't see how that relates to your proposed level system . The reason Broodwar built up such a large Korean audience has however a lot to do with it being a brilliant game as well as certain economic and social processes in South Korea during the early 00's. Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding you, couldn't really make out where you wanted to go with that post ~ None of the listed things had to do with competition. I suppose the in-game out-of-game difference is what may have made my point moot. But BW wasn't some game that 10,000,000 played. It sold a total of 11M copies, but how many people actively played it all the time? Compare that to the number of people who play other games, like say, World of Warcraft which tops 12,000,000 paying users per month. Integrating features found in other types of games, without altering or removing any of the current features in SC2, or changing the way the game works at all, could only bring more players, which leads to more fans of SC2 E-Sports, which leads to more money being invested into it, and more chances that it will go mainstream. Don't like the shinies? You wouldn't have to use them. But don't out of hand deny something that could easily entertain a million "casuals". The money those casuals spend makes development of the game possible. But in this case, it doesn't change your playing experience AT ALL. | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
Ladder dailies? 4v4 raids for extra ladder points? If SC2 requires this kind of incentive for people to play, they aren't doing something right. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
I'd rather Blizzard spend their time improving the gameplay experience, rather than on something like this -- but I suppose if they did add something of this sort, it would be largely harmless. But dear god Battle.net 2.0 is so awful, they have so many better things they could work on... | ||
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Genovi
Sweden388 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
This probably doesn't affect masters or higher at all anyways. | ||
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Herper
501 Posts
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cscarfo1
United States307 Posts
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
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qoolqop
Sweden71 Posts
If they showed MMR and had set numbers for when you get promoted wouldnt that make players motivated? "Only 5 more MMR points and i get into a new league". | ||
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 28 2011 17:01 qoolqop wrote: League promotion/demotion doesn't work this way.If they showed MMR and had set numbers for when you get promoted wouldnt that make players motivated? "Only 5 more MMR points and i get into a new league". The ladder is designed to climb ranks within your devision. To get into other leagues you don't only need to get better, you need to improve faster than the rest. You need to improve even more as bronze casual gamers are leaving the ladder, meaning the bronze ranks need to be filled with the next best players, resulting in a skill shift through all leagues. | ||
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ZarMulix
United States77 Posts
I see no real downside to it though, and I enjoy shiny things and customization. The same way I miss my Ubuntu GUI when I'm on Windows. Having more customization doesn't make something any weaker (if you were to look at it objectively, it would logically just have more "stuff"), and if you don't use any of these features, then what does it matter to you? You still theoretically get more for your buck, and I'm sure you didn't complain about that fancy box you got with the game, the free trials that came with it, the avatars that you unlock, and that whole campaign business that took up more space on your hard drive. Different things appeal to different audiences, and this can only help retain players. I noticed some people mentioning LoL, and no matter how much you may like or dislike it- guess what: it's REALLY popular. So popular that there were conspiracy theories being conjured up when people saw higher numbers on the LoL streams than the SC2 streams at Dreamhack. And it features a lot of these little things that don't really matter to everyone, but sometimes give a little motivation to play some more and get something "cool." | ||
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Sententia
United States90 Posts
The only problem is persistency. Casuals that have played games with progression like Borderlands or CoD are used to persistent progression. I mean, separating the leveling process by races makes sense, but separating by fighting bracket doesn't, and even if it did (it's true that team matches play very differently than 1v1) it wouldn't feel right to a casual who doesn't really understand how differently they play. Also, it would be more work from Blizzard, when there are already 2 more important issues: replays being watchable with another player, and better fucking ladder maps. | ||
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TheRealFluid
United States501 Posts
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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