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Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
July 26 2011 05:33 GMT
#601
RIP Metalopolis. You'll be missed!
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
vaan258
Profile Joined July 2011
17 Posts
July 26 2011 05:37 GMT
#602
ive heard that season 3 for korea starts on the 27th. if it is true would it be 27th for NA or for korea?
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 26 2011 05:39 GMT
#603
Metalopolis..... I will never burrow my roaches through someones ceiling again.... T_T
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
July 26 2011 05:40 GMT
#604
On July 26 2011 14:27 babysimba wrote:
Korea TLPD map stats:
Metalopolis 1.1
Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 17-16 (51.5%)
ZvP: 11-14 (44%)
PvT: 12-14 (46.2%)
Zerg has lower than 50% win rate in gsl even with close spawns disabled.

How does blizzard not think that there is something wrong if zerg has 60% win rate even with close positions. Underlying reasons like better players or more abusive players chose to veto meta since they want to abuse other retarded maps instead, leaving behind all those players who are still trying to improve their play on a macro map. Or have blizzard ever thought that more than 50% of the abusive maps on ladder actually boosted non-zerg against zerg win rates/mmr artificially, i believe there are still zergs out there who did'nt veto those bad maps for whatever reasons.


That's kind of a small sample size though, if you go to International TLPD and check the stats for Metalopolis 1.1 you come away with:

TvZ: 137-159 (46.3%)
ZvP: 119-102 (53.8%)
PvT: 97-111 (46.6%)

Which is more in line with what they are saying.

On top of that you can't just look at stats and say that's the way it is because the stats say so. Unless of course you believe Crossfire SE is a great Zerg map and terrible map for Terran. If you are of that opinion I can see where you are coming from but it seems that most people believe it is the opposite.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
July 26 2011 05:40 GMT
#605
Metalopolis...

I don't really get the argument of being too predictable when close-spawns are disabled? It's still not as predictable as 2-player maps, and you'd be silly to argue they don't deserve a spot. I can't comment on balance as I'm not a top player, but I hadn't really heard of any balance whine. Damn.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 26 2011 05:41 GMT
#606
Oh guys, on the N. Crypts map, the ledge over the third has been reduced, so elevators and stuff won't be as strong and only able to hit the extractor...unless you use a Siege Tank.
Pharaun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany150 Posts
July 26 2011 05:45 GMT
#607
when exyctly does this go live on EU? 27. around 4 am?
It has to start somewhere. - It has to start sometime. - What better place than here. - What better time than now?!!!! -All hell can't stop us now
Baeras
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
July 26 2011 05:46 GMT
#608
meta is probably gonna take the same time off that shakuras plat did all though it may end up going another season because of the length of its life on ladder as is.
I want meta back >_< and it hasnt even left yet
also what is this omega sector map that just got removed from 2v2 i dont believe i ever seen it?

Bet on it!
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 26 2011 05:52 GMT
#609
They didn't do anything about close spawns on Shattered? So disappointing.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
July 26 2011 05:53 GMT
#610
i'm glad metalopolis is gone. as much as the map is loved, i don't want the competitive map pool to turn out like warcraft 3 where the same maps keep getting played over and over year on in.
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Luppy1
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore177 Posts
July 26 2011 05:53 GMT
#611
Can someone please enlighten noobie me? Smaller maps with short rush distances tend to favor terran while bigger maps tend to be more balanced(That's why tournament maps are not like the tiny ones we have in our ladder pool). Some claim that distances can be negated by protoss players because they can simply warp troops in with pylons. Is there even such a thing as a zerg favoured map?
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
July 26 2011 05:53 GMT
#612
On July 26 2011 14:52 snotboogie wrote:
They didn't do anything about close spawns on Shattered? So disappointing.


Yeah, i'll wonder when they'll add a couple destructable rocks to fix the issue.

</sarcasm>
"Im at Quakecon, Gonna win the Duel and TDM. Quake is easy" (c) 2GD | NTHNTHNTHNTHNTHNTH
Unnamed Player
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia89 Posts
July 26 2011 05:57 GMT
#613
On July 26 2011 14:53 Luppy1 wrote:
Can someone please enlighten noobie me? Smaller maps with short rush distances tend to favor terran while bigger maps tend to be more balanced(That's why tournament maps are not like the tiny ones we have in our ladder pool). Some claim that distances can be negated by protoss players because they can simply warp troops in with pylons. Is there even such a thing as a zerg favoured map?


Generally a large map with many easy to take and defend expansions.
Divination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States139 Posts
July 26 2011 06:02 GMT
#614
Since the new blizz maps last season were horrible (Slag, Backwater, Typhon), I'm afraid of what the new maps this season will be like...
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 26 2011 06:04 GMT
#615
On July 26 2011 14:53 GTR wrote:
i'm glad metalopolis is gone. as much as the map is loved, i don't want the competitive map pool to turn out like warcraft 3 where the same maps keep getting played over and over year on in.


GTR, what league are you in? I had a guy in my platnium division named GTR.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
July 26 2011 06:05 GMT
#616
On July 26 2011 15:04 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 14:53 GTR wrote:
i'm glad metalopolis is gone. as much as the map is loved, i don't want the competitive map pool to turn out like warcraft 3 where the same maps keep getting played over and over year on in.


GTR, what league are you in? I had a guy in my platnium division named GTR.


i don't use the id 'gtr' in sc2.
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Morta
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 06:09:44
July 26 2011 06:09 GMT
#617
Not gonna judge about new maps too soon but why oh why are they not taking Crevasse and Terminus in the mappool?

They are AWESOME maps and still Blizzard is so ignorant to not put them in. -__-

But hey,they took out crap station and slag pits AND Delta Quadrant,it's a step in the right direction.
if i'am sad i stop being sad and play starcraft 2 instead.True Story.
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
July 26 2011 06:10 GMT
#618
NOOOOOOO METAL... wait, that was my worst map ... losing avg of 80% of my matches, YES METAL OUT, wait wait backwater gultch still in... NO? wait wait I'm protoss PVZPVZPVZ

I be trollin herp derp
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Ker
Profile Joined June 2011
165 Posts
July 26 2011 06:11 GMT
#619
On July 26 2011 15:09 Morta wrote:
Not gonna judge about new maps too soon but why oh why are they not taking Crevasse and Terminus in the mappool?

They are AWESOME maps and still Blizzard is so ignorant to not put them in. -__-


Because Crevasse and Terminus are too big and too difficult for bronze league players. And this game is all about bronze, as you know.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 26 2011 06:12 GMT
#620
On July 26 2011 14:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 11:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
^this is a very good point.

the new maps look like 2 base play, impossible to take a 3rd on some


Honestly, how is it impossible at all to take a third? is it the distance? or what? Because the thirds are all close.

some of the positions are okay, others are a joke
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