EPTWe were past the negotiation phase.
Reign and Phoenix Situation - Full Story - Page 2
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Mirhi
United States389 Posts
We were past the negotiation phase. | ||
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:50 Terranist wrote: so phoenix burns you guys and you do the unprofessional thing by posting the dirt on TL Mods please ban. User was warned for this post | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:52 mango_destroyer wrote: Not sure the need to include specifics of all his demands was necessary, imo. Ya it may not have been necessary, but at the same time I don't think the specifics being mentioned reflected negatively on Phoenix as a person or player... but that's just my opinion. | ||
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eohs
United States677 Posts
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:54 Mirhi wrote: Phoenix agreed to the terms of the contract, but then never signed it. This is where the trouble came. We were past the negotiation phase. Perhaps you should add this to the OP. This is quite important imo. | ||
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m0nkey_man
New Zealand20 Posts
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:48 TheAntZ wrote: These kinds of players shouldnt be regarded as "professionals". Phoenix is an awesome player but this is behavior you'd expect from someone whos actually won or done something. You say that as if it's fine for players that have had success to have unreasonable demands and to screw their teams around. | ||
Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:53 frequency wrote: If he was so worried about his military service, why did he join the team in the first place? I don't see how anyone could find it okay to be sent back and forth every few months. The contract isn't signed anyway (?), so you have no obligation to him to provide anything. Neither of them have any obligation to one another based on most common foreign practices, this is simply a situation of a premature announcement made on a team of otherwise completely contracted players. If they hadn't announced Phoenix as part of the team while negotiations were in progress, then we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion right now. Quite simply, no one is really in the wrong in that regard since Phoenix has every right to ask for changes to the contract before signing, and Reign has every right to say "No, that's not feasible for us", but the only issue is, that generally happens before you announce a player as part of your team. | ||
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SiCkO_
United States481 Posts
Best of luck Reign and Phoenix, kinda highlights the problems of bringing koreans to the states what with the red tape and military service. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:56 SeizeTheDay wrote: Do people read the OP i dont get your comment... Phoenix is in the wrong here not Team Reign. He didn't sign the contract nor during the contract did he say anything about military? READ BEFORE YOU POST? How hard is that? To many opinions not enough smarts. Negative light is what phoenix deserves.. not saying military needs in the first place. Demanding to go to MLG Anaheim when that wasn't talked about. Asking for more money .. NOT signing a contract and trying to hold Reign to the contract when he didn't even sign it... This is exactly what you shouldn't be doing from the OP. The point isn't to judge who is "good or bad", the point is to explain why it didn't work out. Don't be judgemental and dumb, it can be a difficult situation bringing in a player from korea. | ||
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
If you are going to claim another team is interfering in Phoneix's decision, then I hope you have proof, because that could count against you tbh. A shame it didn't work out, but guess his needs couldn't match up with yours. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:57 travis wrote: This is exactly what you shouldn't be doing from the OP. The point isn't to judge who is "good or bad", the point is to explain why it didn't work out. Don't be judgemental and dumb, it can be a difficult situation bringing in a player from korea. Ya I have to agree with this. I just really don't see why this has to be some drama filled situation where someone is the "bad guy." It was just a negotiation which doesn't seem to have been handled in the best way, and it simply didn't work out. Not a big deal overall. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13925 Posts
oh well He never did anything and from what it looks like never was apart of the team officaly. Still can't wait to see whats in store for Reign still. | ||
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Ezze
Canada934 Posts
Why would they ban? Most people would look at this post and infer the exact same thing. I'm one of them. Whatever happened during negotiations doesn't matter. It's unprofessional to come to TL and post all he dirt. Look at how FXO handled their situation with Sheth. That's how you do it. You don't think FXO could've hurt Sheth's image if they wanted to considering what he did to the team? | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On July 24 2011 02:57 moltenlead wrote: I think that you would have been better off by simply stating that negotiations fell through. You can't exactly say that he left if he was never actually a part of your team, despite wearing the tag. If you are going to claim another team is interfering in Phoneix's decision, then I hope you have proof, because that could count against you tbh. A shame it didn't work out, but guess his needs couldn't match up with yours. That's what Mirhi said and meant. That negotiations fell through. It was desRow who posted that PhoeNix left in the first place. | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On July 24 2011 03:00 sermokala wrote: I got a really really bad feelign that this "budding" organization is the Secret EG project that they wanted Puma to captian. oh well He never did anything and from what it looks like never was apart of the team officaly. Still can't wait to see whats in store for Reign still. I would hardly call EG a "budding organization" in regards to eSports considering they're one of the older teams in the scene. It's kind of silly to makes assumptions based on basically no information in regards to the organization making offers to contracted players. | ||
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