EPTReign and Phoenix Situation - Full Story - Page 13
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Zirith
Canada403 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
That's what I sort of figured. PhoeniX would be better off joining a team based in Korea with his impending military duty, meh. Shit like this happens. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:18 ReaperX wrote: P.S. @ the people who say what Mirhi has done is unprofessional; You are the one's that say that EG was unprofessional that they did not announce the signing of PuMa and now you blame Reign for explaining the issue to the community. Sigh. No, we're complaining that EG was unethical in the signing of PuMa. This is a totally different thing. Your logic was okay until you based it on complete bullshit. I don't know much about either parties in this but it seems the post made by reign was very aggravated even when it was mentioned that they weren't here to hurt his reputation. Using aggressive words like threatening, refused and demanding isn't how you go about making a press release about it when you state that it's not meant to bash him. "Negotiations/ed" "Persuade" "Requesting/ed" are passive words that don't reflect any hostility in the matter, and thus should be used when portraying any type of press release regarding this matter where you don't intend to bash the mentioned player. It just seems that you guys are frustrated with the said player and are showing it with your choice of words while sugar coating it with the first few sentences. I personally feel you're trying to make the player the bad guy while trying to make yourselves look logically reasonable and not at fault, all which could of been done with passive wording while avoiding the "Phoenix is the bad guy here" theme. | ||
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Deshkar
Singapore1244 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
It's a shame it didn't work out but it seems to be for the better for both sides. | ||
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YuTz
United States119 Posts
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SgtPepper
United States568 Posts
And I certainly understand Reign making this post after the whole EG/Puma drama. Seems like they did a good job of representing the whole argument. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Deezer
Canada73 Posts
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delHospital
Poland261 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:05 Deezer wrote: VT management didn't seem good and it doesn't surprise me this stuff is happening to reign. I'm sure RatZ management is much better. | ||
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[Atomic]Peace
United States451 Posts
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jenzebubble
United States183 Posts
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Frozenhelfire
United States420 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:33 MonkSEA wrote: No, we're complaining that EG was unethical in the signing of PuMa. This is a totally different thing. Your logic was okay until you based it on complete bullshit. What unethical signing? As far as I know the contract still isn't signed. Unless EG signed a contract with Puma before contacting TSL management in any way, shape, or form nothing wrong happened. Why negotiate with management before seeing if a player is even interested? | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:33 MonkSEA wrote: No, we're complaining that EG was unethical in the signing of PuMa. This is a totally different thing. Your logic was okay until you based it on complete bullshit. I don't know much about either parties in this but it seems the post made by reign was very aggravated even when it was mentioned that they weren't here to hurt his reputation. Using aggressive words like threatening, refused and demanding isn't how you go about making a press release about it when you state that it's not meant to bash him. "Negotiations/ed" "Persuade" "Requesting/ed" are passive words that don't reflect any hostility in the matter, and thus should be used when portraying any type of press release regarding this matter where you don't intend to bash the mentioned player. It just seems that you guys are frustrated with the said player and are showing it with your choice of words while sugar coating it with the first few sentences. I personally feel you're trying to make the player the bad guy while trying to make yourselves look logically reasonable and not at fault, all which could of been done with passive wording while avoiding the "Phoenix is the bad guy here" theme. It's not bullshit, nor am I sugarcoating my choice of words. People were complaining that EG didn't announce the signing of PuMa themselves. | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
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ehalf
408 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:18 ReaperX wrote: P.S. @ the people who say what Mirhi has done is unprofessional; You are the one's that say that EG was unprofessional that they did not announce the signing of PuMa and now you blame Reign for explaining the issue to the community. Sigh. they're probably the same people who go "OMG WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY IN ESPORTS!!!" and then when they get it, they go "OMG HOW UNPROFESSIONAL!!" | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
 Haha maybe if he was done with his military service or whatever it would've worked out. | ||
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DuckS
United States845 Posts
They aren't painting phoenix in a negative light - they're saying what happened and what he did, and why the deal didn't fall through. This isn't negative. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:20 ReaperX wrote: It's not bullshit, nor am I sugarcoating my choice of words. People were complaining that EG didn't announce the signing of PuMa themselves. I'm pretty sure most of the complaints were about their handling of the situation in regards to communicating with TSL, not about announcing the Puma acquisition themselves. To be honest, I don't remember a single post of that nature. Them being beaten to the punch by TSL was a side-effect of not being in communication with the team, if a player acquisition is going on behind the scenes, neither team will really reveal it to the public, in this case it happened because both teams weren't on the same page. So yeah, the situations are pretty different, general negotiations aren't really something you want to talk about in public, because there are likely a fair few negotiations that fall through and you don't everyone to be jumping on a player's nuts for expecting terms adequate to their expectations. Really, that's all that happened here, negotiations fell through, the only difference is that Reign announced that Phoenix was a part of the team before he had signed the contract, which was a massive blunder on their part. | ||
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