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On July 24 2011 06:21 Deshkar wrote:
I feel that each major SCII team should have a clear spokesperson/representative (2 maybe), and they manage all the official posts about/for their teams on this forum, as well as being very active.
Hopefully TL can find/create a way of highlighting these pple as being the official representatives.
Fxoboss, xeris and the col bosses are probably the ones I really recognize off the bat as being sufficiently empowered to represent their respective teams.
I often spend a lot of time trying to figure out how reliable a player/person's statement is about a particular team, or whether is really official in the first place.
It would go a long way to help prevent/reduce e-drama as well as keep things more professional.
Team logo as a special forum icon? ;D
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On July 24 2011 08:41 deL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 06:21 Deshkar wrote:
I feel that each major SCII team should have a clear spokesperson/representative (2 maybe), and they manage all the official posts about/for their teams on this forum, as well as being very active.
Hopefully TL can find/create a way of highlighting these pple as being the official representatives.
Fxoboss, xeris and the col bosses are probably the ones I really recognize off the bat as being sufficiently empowered to represent their respective teams.
I often spend a lot of time trying to figure out how reliable a player/person's statement is about a particular team, or whether is really official in the first place.
It would go a long way to help prevent/reduce e-drama as well as keep things more professional. Team logo as a special forum icon? ;D
Team logo would definitely be nifty
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On July 24 2011 08:41 deL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 06:21 Deshkar wrote:
I feel that each major SCII team should have a clear spokesperson/representative (2 maybe), and they manage all the official posts about/for their teams on this forum, as well as being very active.
Hopefully TL can find/create a way of highlighting these pple as being the official representatives.
Fxoboss, xeris and the col bosses are probably the ones I really recognize off the bat as being sufficiently empowered to represent their respective teams.
I often spend a lot of time trying to figure out how reliable a player/person's statement is about a particular team, or whether is really official in the first place.
It would go a long way to help prevent/reduce e-drama as well as keep things more professional. Team logo as a special forum icon? ;D
AGREED like with MLG and IPL
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I can understand the difficulties of bringing a player from Korea to the US. Imo its only possible if both parties are flexible. Sounds like Phoenix wasn't. You've gotta be able to give up your life in Korea completely to make it work.
Lets not make a drama out of this TL : >
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On July 24 2011 08:52 Tiazi wrote:
Lets not make a drama out of this TL : >
Where have you been the past few days? That is what TL does best.
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On July 24 2011 08:41 deL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 06:21 Deshkar wrote:
I feel that each major SCII team should have a clear spokesperson/representative (2 maybe), and they manage all the official posts about/for their teams on this forum, as well as being very active.
Hopefully TL can find/create a way of highlighting these pple as being the official representatives.
Fxoboss, xeris and the col bosses are probably the ones I really recognize off the bat as being sufficiently empowered to represent their respective teams.
I often spend a lot of time trying to figure out how reliable a player/person's statement is about a particular team, or whether is really official in the first place.
It would go a long way to help prevent/reduce e-drama as well as keep things more professional. Team logo as a special forum icon? ;D
Just because you can see that someone is apart of an organization doesn't change what they say. Even if you could immediately recognize Mirhi as a Management type for Reign, doesn't mean what he says, or how the community reacts to it, will change.
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Seems like another case of unsuccessful negotiation. Let's make nothing big out of it.
Sucks for team Reign though since Phoenix is a very strong Zerg. But I guess they could work something else out. RGNSheth maybe ?
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I think it's very sad news. phoenix is very good :l
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Oh well. It is too bad for the team, but I hope everything works out for your other players. Go Slush!
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On July 24 2011 10:55 SCPlato wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 08:41 deL wrote:On July 24 2011 06:21 Deshkar wrote:
I feel that each major SCII team should have a clear spokesperson/representative (2 maybe), and they manage all the official posts about/for their teams on this forum, as well as being very active.
Hopefully TL can find/create a way of highlighting these pple as being the official representatives.
Fxoboss, xeris and the col bosses are probably the ones I really recognize off the bat as being sufficiently empowered to represent their respective teams.
I often spend a lot of time trying to figure out how reliable a player/person's statement is about a particular team, or whether is really official in the first place.
It would go a long way to help prevent/reduce e-drama as well as keep things more professional. Team logo as a special forum icon? ;D Just because you can see that someone is apart of an organization doesn't change what they say. Even if you could immediately recognize Mirhi as a Management type for Reign, doesn't mean what he says, or how the community reacts to it, will change.
At least we'll know that he's an official member/rep of that organization, rather than just a community member translating/speculating/trolling information at us.
Team logo for all members, and perhaps an additional star/(marker) to show denote a manager and/or pr official.
But than again it might not be worth the trouble, just my two cents.
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I'm glad to see Reign handling this so well after the information being leaked unexpectedly by the most unlikable person in the entire sc2 community (Desrow). The problem makes sense now, and I don't see either side being particularly in the wrong.
GL in the future Reign!
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On July 24 2011 02:43 Mirhi wrote:
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*As an aside, there is a budding organization that has been tampering with a few teams trying to snipe players under contract from both Reign and FXO. They went after Phoenix and told him not to sign his contract so that he could leave Team Reign.
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Now that's just Evil.
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On July 24 2011 13:16 adeptz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 02:43 Mirhi wrote:
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*As an aside, there is a budding organization that has been tampering with a few teams trying to snipe players under contract from both Reign and FXO. They went after Phoenix and told him not to sign his contract so that he could leave Team Reign.
... Now that's just Evil.
You might even say that's Genius.
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On July 24 2011 13:47 Entropic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 13:16 adeptz wrote:On July 24 2011 02:43 Mirhi wrote:
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*As an aside, there is a budding organization that has been tampering with a few teams trying to snipe players under contract from both Reign and FXO. They went after Phoenix and told him not to sign his contract so that he could leave Team Reign.
... Now that's just Evil. You might even say that's Genius.
that's pretty low standards for "Genius"
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Yeah, this doesn't seem dramatic really to me. Perhaps it could've been handled in a more professional manner by Reign, in the end though it just seems that Phoenix wanted quite a few things that his team could offer and an agreement could not be reached.
Best of luck to Reign and Phoenix both in the future.
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immature professionals like this show how level headed IdrA is
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If i see EGPhoenix i will lmao.
That being said. Reign has a strong lineup, and they can do without.
Would love to hear Phoenixes side of the story and if maybe someone could fill me in on the details of the mandatory korean military service.
I know they have to spend a certain amount of time in the military to be considered a citizen, but it seems odd that he would have to come back every 3 months to get a clear order of when he needed to serve.
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Doesn't seem like the OP had any dirt on Phoenix here. They're just posting some facts about how they couldn't come to an agreement. I don't see any less of Phoenix just because he had additional demands. There is nobody at fault here. It's just unfortunate that they made the announcement to bring him in before he signed the contract.
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One thing we can all agree on is that Desrow comes out of this looking the worst, not RGN or Phoenix. Good luck to all parties, everyone will be just fine.
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On July 24 2011 03:08 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 03:03 YeYo wrote:
LOL @ pheonix threatining to leave team why because he thinks he a hot shot korean?
Im sure there are 50 other Koreans that would easily agree to those terms.
Reign doesnt need Pheonix, Pheonix doesnt need Reign. Oh get over your silly judgements. Are you going to judge every player that wants to negotiate their contract? This is why negotiations shouldn't really be made public anyways, because there are always gits ready to make judgments about the negotiating party. Reign shouldn't really have announced Phoenix if he wasn't contracted yet, while the rest of the team was. Negotiations continued to take place afterwards and ultimately Phoenix chose not to sign with the team, he was pretty much never with Reign in that regard, they just jumped the gun in announcing him. When everyone on your team is contracted except for one person, and you're negotiating with them about the terms of their contract, it's strange to announce that they're a part of your team, because you get into situations like this.
If there was consideration and acceptance of the terms by both parties then it's contractually binding. Let's say that Reign emailed him the terms of the contract, and he emailed them back saying that he accepted the terms. He hasn't signed any papers yet, but he has given consent to the terms via email. Reign then makes the announcement that he's joined the team, and Phoenix decides that he actually wants more.
Technically if the proposal email was a copy of the final contract, and Phoenix admits to being the one that send the reply saying that he accepted the terms, it's a valid contract. Obviously it's going to be easier for Reign to just forget the whole thing than persue any other action ... lol ... but I don't blame them for announcing him as a player on the roster if he accepted the offer after due consideration.
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