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m2e
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
July 23 2011 02:53 GMT
#261
On July 23 2011 11:50 sandyph wrote:
good news, cant wait to see DRG on more International event, and hopefully some of the Root guys on GSL/GSTL

Kiwikaki all kill IM ? it CAN happen :D

a bit sad for AG though, now the only Korean player he can 'talk' to at MLG is only IMMvp since Choya is FXO, DongRaeGu is now Col.MVP and I dont think even he have the balls to 'talk' to the SlayerS guys with BoxerR and Jessica there

well there's always next MLG/NASL for him to 'scout talents'

AG?
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 23 2011 02:53 GMT
#262
On July 23 2011 11:49 Clbull wrote:
Does this mean that we could potentially see CatZ, Drewbie and CrunCher in the next GSTL playing for the MVP team?


At the booths, maybe. Playing, not until the next season of GSTL, more than likely.

This partnership only is different from the SK one *if* complexity's players start heading to Korea. If they don't actually send anyone to Korea to train, then it's just the same as the SK deal.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
July 23 2011 02:53 GMT
#263
On July 23 2011 11:47 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:41 Existential wrote:
Seems like something very similar to what MC and NaDa are doing between oGs and SK Gaming.


Not really. SK does not even have a SC2 team of it's own. And thus no players to send to korea to stay with oGs. It's completely different.


SK is not committed to StarCraft II totally. They probably just wanted to taste a little in the possible easiest way.

But in this deal, there are actually 2 big teams.
There is no fate, but what we make.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 23 2011 02:53 GMT
#264
On July 23 2011 11:52 aphorism wrote:
Wow, so many foreign-korean partnerships lately. It seems like the scenes are getting closer and closer together, which is just fantastic.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:49 Clbull wrote:
Does this mean that we could potentially see CatZ, Drewbie and CrunCher in the next GSTL playing for the MVP team?


One can only hope...

catz and drewbie 3-20 something vs europe...drewbie and catz vs korea...hm.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
July 23 2011 02:56 GMT
#265
On July 23 2011 11:53 m2e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:50 sandyph wrote:
good news, cant wait to see DRG on more International event, and hopefully some of the Root guys on GSL/GSTL

Kiwikaki all kill IM ? it CAN happen :D

a bit sad for AG though, now the only Korean player he can 'talk' to at MLG is only IMMvp since Choya is FXO, DongRaeGu is now Col.MVP and I dont think even he have the balls to 'talk' to the SlayerS guys with BoxerR and Jessica there

well there's always next MLG/NASL for him to 'scout talents'

AG?


alex garfeild...guy who owns eg
Mangix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States115 Posts
July 23 2011 02:56 GMT
#266
I like these Joint agreements over buying the other team/getting some of their players.

This is sweet, best of luck CoL and MVP.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
July 23 2011 02:57 GMT
#267
On July 23 2011 11:53 m2e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:50 sandyph wrote:
good news, cant wait to see DRG on more International event, and hopefully some of the Root guys on GSL/GSTL

Kiwikaki all kill IM ? it CAN happen :D

a bit sad for AG though, now the only Korean player he can 'talk' to at MLG is only IMMvp since Choya is FXO, DongRaeGu is now Col.MVP and I dont think even he have the balls to 'talk' to the SlayerS guys with BoxerR and Jessica there

well there's always next MLG/NASL for him to 'scout talents'

AG?


Alex Garfield, EG's Executive Director.

And also the funniest, sexiest and most talented man in all of SC community.
There is no fate, but what we make.
Devilgoat
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)41 Posts
July 23 2011 02:58 GMT
#268
Genius, you boss. So sick.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
July 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#269
are all these partnerships and player recruiting a sign of a weak korean SC2 economy?
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
July 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#270
Another example of a company respectfully approaching the management of a korean team and hashing out a deal.

EG could learn alot from these other teams who are respecting the korean culture and approaching these korean teams in a very humble way. Im almost positive that neither DRG or Genius have contracts with MVP(its a fairly new team and i dont beleive they have many if any sponsors and surely no salaries)

These korean teams seem very willing to work with the foreign community and had EG approached Mr Lee im sure something could have been worked out without anyone being offended and no backlash from the community, im offended by Alex Garfields stance that he did nothing wrong.

Congratulations are in order for complexity this was a great move on their part and i think this approach to aquire korean players is much much more realistic and far better for the team on both sides as a whole.

Complexity basically gets access to a korean pro gaming house for its players to train at now, that is priceless. The korean players they aquired will still thrive just as they have been in the environment that made them great players in the first place. Having a deal like EG's doesnt make sense for puma on anything other than a financial level, Alex said they are providing puma with a korean environment he can excel in , but honestly i dont see what they could be doing that would be just as good or better than training in a korea pro gaming house.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#271
All I can think is SC2Con needs to organize KesPA rules as fast as possible. Yesterday there was outrage, today there is celebration, tomorrow will be chaotic. Waxangel started this thought and I''ll extend it past him-

SC2 players on the whole are young and easily exploitable. Big money teams are buying talent and recognition as of late. This is not a bad thing overall, it happens in every sport. However with an increase in money the necessity of rules and contracts to protect the players becomes more important.


I will cheer for MVP. I will hope for all players to do well under the increasing amount of mergers with financial powerhouse teams.

SC Hwaiting.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Skipton
Profile Joined December 2010
United States707 Posts
July 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#272
Congrats to both Complexity and MVP. Doing business the right way.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
July 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#273
On July 23 2011 11:59 benjammin wrote:
are all these partnerships and player recruiting a sign of a weak korean SC2 economy?


I think yes.
There is no fate, but what we make.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 23 2011 03:00 GMT
#274
On July 23 2011 11:59 Skipton wrote:
Congrats to both Complexity and MVP. Doing business the right way.

...was anyone doing business the wrong way? Pretty sure all activity has been legit so far.
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
July 23 2011 03:00 GMT
#275
nice move. picking up DRG, guy is an absolute beast
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 23 2011 03:01 GMT
#276
Wowza. Crazy stuff going on right now. A fully unified Korean and Foreigner scene? Yes please.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 23 2011 03:01 GMT
#277
On July 23 2011 12:00 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:59 Skipton wrote:
Congrats to both Complexity and MVP. Doing business the right way.

...was anyone doing business the wrong way? Pretty sure all activity has been legit so far.


Legally yes, ethically, people have different opinions. Let's not derail this thread.
OKScottish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States217 Posts
July 23 2011 03:02 GMT
#278
WOW sick news!!!! Nerd chills!!!
twitch.tv/OK_Scottish :: twitter.com/OKScottish :: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :: (╯°-°)╯︵ ┻━┻ :: Prime Clan <3♥<3♥
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
July 23 2011 03:02 GMT
#279
jason lake is a madman! xD
http://www.xtgn.tv/videos/158/col-redemption

very passionate about eSports good to see him and coL back making some moves, more strong American teams for the EU - NA rivalry is always fun specially when EU owns xD

gl coL hope you become strong competetitor once again.
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
July 23 2011 03:04 GMT
#280
Best news this week
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
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