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EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
July 23 2011 03:04 GMT
#281
I called it! OGS/TL FoU/FXO and now MVP/Col. I don't think this is the last team partnership
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 23 2011 03:04 GMT
#282
so much news
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 23 2011 03:04 GMT
#283
On July 23 2011 12:01 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 12:00 Serpico wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:59 Skipton wrote:
Congrats to both Complexity and MVP. Doing business the right way.

...was anyone doing business the wrong way? Pretty sure all activity has been legit so far.


Legally yes, ethically, people have different opinions. Let's not derail this thread.

Well when people use language like that, they're trying to be cute about making a statement without making one directly.

Grats to col though, hopefully they can start signing Korean players as full time team members to get a greater presence in Korea as well.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
July 23 2011 03:05 GMT
#284
On July 23 2011 12:04 EnderCraft wrote:
I called it! OGS/TL FoU/FXO and now MVP/Col. I don't think this is the last team partnership


mouz/SlayerS and EG/ST maybe? Let's wait and see
There is no fate, but what we make.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2011 03:08 GMT
#285
Congratulations for both teams. Sorry Tyler, sounds like DRG is coming to everything. I wonder who will go to Korea to train in the MVP house. Will it be people who get code A from MLG or do you think some of the players will go on their own?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2011 03:08 GMT
#286
On July 23 2011 12:05 Invoker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 12:04 EnderCraft wrote:
I called it! OGS/TL FoU/FXO and now MVP/Col. I don't think this is the last team partnership


mouz/SlayerS and EG/ST maybe? Let's wait and see

How about EG/TSL lolololol
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RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
July 23 2011 03:08 GMT
#287
Dignitas/ZeNex

you heard it here first.
JasKo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States50 Posts
July 23 2011 03:09 GMT
#288
Wow so much Korean/ foreign news, this stuff in getting out of control. I can't wait for State of The Game discussions
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 23 2011 03:10 GMT
#289
On July 23 2011 12:04 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 12:01 Mordiford wrote:
On July 23 2011 12:00 Serpico wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:59 Skipton wrote:
Congrats to both Complexity and MVP. Doing business the right way.

...was anyone doing business the wrong way? Pretty sure all activity has been legit so far.


Legally yes, ethically, people have different opinions. Let's not derail this thread.

Well when people use language like that, they're trying to be cute about making a statement without making one directly.

Grats to col though, hopefully they can start signing Korean players as full time team members to get a greater presence in Korea as well.

At the end of the day nobody gives a shit if your organization thinks they did business the right way but the korean teams don't agree, they can block you or make it difficult to deal with them in the future no matter how righteous you think what you did was. Doing business "the right way" means both sides of an agreement thinking it was done right, not just one, and this is definitely a case of doing business the right way. Gratz to Complexity!
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
July 23 2011 03:10 GMT
#290
GOSH SOO much news never seen so much korean/foreign joint news in week.
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2011 03:10 GMT
#291
On July 23 2011 11:07 Fionn wrote:
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On July 23 2011 11:04 unoriginalname wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:01 BionicSC wrote:
Fnatic/IM next? =)


Fnatic recently got Rain, they have their token Korean. Mousesports still need theirs, so perhaps IM-Mouz?


IM and Startale have bunch of sponsors. Don't think they need a partnership.

HoSeo, though, now THAT's a team where a foreign team should want to partner with. Whatever that coach is doing, he has a team full of amazing players with great potential.

Hoseo is part of a school, though, isn't it? Their "team house" is in the school I believe. that's the impression I got when Artosis went there. It would be kind of hard to do a partnership with players who don't go to school there
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 23 2011 03:12 GMT
#292
On July 23 2011 12:10 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 12:04 Serpico wrote:
On July 23 2011 12:01 Mordiford wrote:
On July 23 2011 12:00 Serpico wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:59 Skipton wrote:
Congrats to both Complexity and MVP. Doing business the right way.

...was anyone doing business the wrong way? Pretty sure all activity has been legit so far.


Legally yes, ethically, people have different opinions. Let's not derail this thread.

Well when people use language like that, they're trying to be cute about making a statement without making one directly.

Grats to col though, hopefully they can start signing Korean players as full time team members to get a greater presence in Korea as well.

At the end of the day nobody gives a shit if your organization thinks they did business the right way but the korean teams don't agree, they can block you or make it difficult to deal with them in the future no matter how righteous you think what you did was. Doing business "the right way" means both sides of an agreement thinking it was done right, not just one, and this is definitely a case of doing business the right way. Gratz to Complexity!


There was no way to "do it right" with puma, Lee would have been raging regardless and he just found a way to slander by pulling the cultural insensitive card.

On topic ; hope to see more MVP players a foreign tourneys.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
July 23 2011 03:12 GMT
#293
I think mouz is the only major team that doens't have any affiliation with a Korean team. This is becoming an "arms race" (courtesy of hot bid). Grab IM, NSHS, ST and prime while their still hot!
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 23 2011 03:12 GMT
#294
On July 23 2011 11:59 Probe1 wrote:
All I can think is SC2Con needs to organize KesPA rules as fast as possible. Yesterday there was outrage, today there is celebration, tomorrow will be chaotic. Waxangel started this thought and I''ll extend it past him-

SC2 players on the whole are young and easily exploitable. Big money teams are buying talent and recognition as of late. This is not a bad thing overall, it happens in every sport. However with an increase in money the necessity of rules and contracts to protect the players becomes more important.


I will cheer for MVP. I will hope for all players to do well under the increasing amount of mergers with financial powerhouse teams.

SC Hwaiting.


So you want players to be locked in to contracts that are heavily unfair, live in conditions that most people would consider horrible and be forced to train 12 hours a day?

If SC2 in Korea goes the Kespa route, you can say goodbye to foreigners popping over to compete in GSL, bye to the MLG partnership and bye to Koreans playing in foreign tourneys. If they make it so foreign teams can't sign Korean players or that by doing so that player can't compete in GSL then they are only hurting their scene.

if they lock out our teams from getting Korean players then we should return the favour and lock out Korean players from western tourneys and allow our homegrown players to have a free for all for all the lovely dollars on offer at tourneys.

If western teams all got together and started a union and threw their weight around so that Korean teams couldn't take their players (not that Koean teams really want foreigners), everyone would go ape shit, but its ok for Koreans to do it? The SC2 scene in Korea has very little money in it, much like the western BW scene had little money in it..... they should be thankful for foreign dollars coming to their players because they can't provide it for their players.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 23 2011 03:14 GMT
#295
fnatic/IM >.>
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
July 23 2011 03:14 GMT
#296
Awesome.

Looking forward to seeing both of these guys at foreign events, not only because DRG is Doctor Gee, but because they both have real personalities, and we want to see genius's ceremonies live.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 23 2011 03:15 GMT
#297
On July 23 2011 12:12 EnderCraft wrote:
I think mouz is the only major team that doens't have any affiliation with a Korean team. This is becoming an "arms race" (courtesy of hot bid). Grab IM, NSHS, ST and prime while their still hot!


Prime already has World Elite.
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dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
July 23 2011 03:16 GMT
#298
I came.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 23 2011 03:17 GMT
#299
On July 23 2011 11:59 benjammin wrote:
are all these partnerships and player recruiting a sign of a weak korean SC2 economy?


It's more a sign that MLG got 22+ million viewers for Columbus, which is approaching half of the total population of South Korea. The market for SC2 play is simply global, which means that's where the money will be.
Frequencyy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States344 Posts
July 23 2011 03:18 GMT
#300
lots of foreign teams allying with korean teams i like it alot makes me feel comfortable with the western starcraft 2 scene and that we are here to stay.
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