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SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#81

it is no mean feat for a female to reach Master level while laddering against males.


This is where you lose me... The admission that even though she's not really good enough, she made the team because she's a girl. This is exactly why people give her shit.
mutalisks are awesome!
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#82
On July 22 2011 05:23 audist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:12 Postman wrote:
Bloodless murder? Why are you being so dramatic? What these people are doing is wrong, but it's certainly not akin to murder of any kind.

I hope that this gets settled and the flaming stops, almost everyone on TL supports SlayerS and every member of it.


She's not being overtly dramatic. Jessica is speaking from personal experience.


This. She's a veteran of the entertainment industry. People are so ignorant. They don't give her enough credit for actually knowing the dangers of cyberbullying, especially in Korean culture. At first, I didn't think things through and worried about her somewhat, thinking she was being a bit naive, but with this clarification and upon further thought, I think that people dismissing her actions for being a big overreaction are truly the naive ones.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#83
It would be awesome for Slayers to train Eve to the max, send her out in the GSTL, and her all-kill another team.
blah blah blah...
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#84
Keep it up Jessica. You're a good influence on SlayerS and part of a reason I'm a big fan.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#85
Speaks a lot about how different our worlds are. I don't really agree with your views on how things should be handled, nor can I say I feel sorry for the ones who may be fearing a lawsuit.
Either way it says a lot that you took your time to write it personally, man, says more than any number of press releases has ever done.

People will be fucking idiots, there's no way around that. I hope things does improve for Eve though, but I doubt anything will change unless she grows a thicker skin (easier said than done, yes). I don't know exactly how it works in Korea, but I can't see a lawsuit scaring off the ones who really want to be dicks for the sake of being dicks.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#86
SlayerS fighting
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#87
On July 22 2011 05:01 SlayerS_Jessica wrote:
...
Having stumbled across this, I warned him in advance, in case he made the mistake of going too far, that current Korean laws on cybercrime allow punishment for those that circulate rumors about another person, whether the rumor is true or not.


Just for clarification, so that it's not just a miss-communication:
If you spread the truth about someone else online, you can get punished?

Isn't rumor by definition something that is unproven or false?

I support the legal actions against the porn-guys and haters spewing insults, but I as far as I know there are girls in Master league (see female cups) and they might have been a better choice. Mentioning her looks as reason for her recruitment also left kind of a bitter taste.

Please also understand the gamers, that dream of being part of the SlayerS team and are just below pro-level and then they see a player drafted that has clearly inferior starcraft skills, just because she is a girl.

So hopefully you use legal action considerate and with a cool head.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#88
On July 22 2011 05:25 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:22 Vequeth wrote:
On July 22 2011 05:13 b_unnies wrote:
I'm afraid to voice my opinions on this matter as I don't want to be arrested


Censorship offends me.

this is no censorship. censorship is when a government blocks expression. this is a situation where expression already happened and the expression in itself is a crime as it is defamation.

you want freedom ? then you have to respect the rights of other people as well and words can be just as harmful as any other actions.

tbh, this is true, slander + libel is against US laws too.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
July 21 2011 20:26 GMT
#89
This was very well written, thank you for sharing.

Jessica, keep on fighting! I believe in you, and Lim Yohwan. I hope the cyber bullying stops, and that Eve does well as a pro gamer

You have the support of many people here on TL, even if we are not as loud as the angry trolls.

Good Luck, Have Fun.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
July 21 2011 20:26 GMT
#90
On July 22 2011 05:25 slicknav wrote:
It would be awesome for Slayers to train Eve to the max, send her out in the GSTL, and her all-kill another team.

that'll show them haters!
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Noli
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom179 Posts
July 21 2011 20:26 GMT
#91
SlayerS has never failed to spot potential this will be no different once this quiets down.

My friend is a female gamer who attended a Halo event with my team as the coach and this was the same sort of reaction toward her as SlayerS EvE. It's pathetic and had hoped the SC community would be more mature than the Halo community but sadly it seems not to be the case. These things can't be helped only ignored sadly.

SlayerS hawiting!
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
July 21 2011 20:26 GMT
#92
JESSICA!!! Are you going to MLG Anaheim?

I have something prepared for you and Boxer ^_^
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
July 21 2011 20:27 GMT
#93
On July 22 2011 05:25 FreezerJumps wrote:
I don't support Eve, because she doesn't deserve what she's been given. I don't support Jessica, because she's given an opportunity to someone far less deserving than the masters and gransmasters players who have done far more to earn a contract.

But I also don't support the people who are saying anything worse than what I just said, nor do I support any of the supposed hatred and pictures which I haven't seen.

i fully support the last part. you can criticize people and their actions with reasonable arguments and appropriate words like this.

(fyi i dont think slayers eve is not deserving her spot and i think kim gayeon had her own reasons as well)
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
July 21 2011 20:27 GMT
#94
On July 22 2011 05:12 Postman wrote:
Bloodless murder? Why are you being so dramatic? What these people are doing is wrong, but it's certainly not akin to murder of any kind.

I hope that this gets settled and the flaming stops, almost everyone on TL supports SlayerS and every member of it.


I personally know someone who resorted to attempt to suicide because of bullying. Internet bullying is no different.

A single person writing a hateful comment isn't that bad. But hundreds of people sharing embarrassing photoshops and hateful comments? That's far enough to ruin a public figure's life.

Pushing someone to the limit where he/she ends up even thinking about attempting suicide is nothing less than a Bloodless murder.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
July 21 2011 20:27 GMT
#95
On July 22 2011 05:24 Energizer wrote:
Its a shame its come this far, it really is. But being in the spotlight, does it not mean you are subject to criticizing? While yes what you are doing is just, as some of the things I've seen sent are disgusting and nasty, but does that really mean anyone that criticizes how SlayerS is being run should be labeled as evidence for authority?



I dont understand why she doesnt expect criticism when Eve was recruited partially for her looks and has the skills of an amateur, according to Jessica.
Flameling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States413 Posts
July 21 2011 20:27 GMT
#96
Good job in that you actually read the comments posted in the thread about you overreacting. I don't know about the topic of boxer, but I feel he should be more credited to what he has done to e-sports. I actually haven't seen many degrading him, but definitely, if it's happening, it should stop.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
July 21 2011 20:27 GMT
#97
Woah nice explaining post!
You have really put a lot thought behind this

Thx for explaining everything
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
July 21 2011 20:28 GMT
#98
Totally agree and support SlayerS_Jessica. She did the right thing.

SlayerS fighting!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 21 2011 20:28 GMT
#99
Thank you for posting this. I hope that better understanding and cooler tempers will always prevail, especially about something like this which should've (imo) been embraced and encouraged.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
July 21 2011 20:28 GMT
#100
We still love you and SlayeS.
The internet is a very bad thing cause its very anonymous - pls keep up the great work. Get Eve working - she will be a superstar of the progamming scene (she even is now)

SlayerS fighting!
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