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Whenever you hit post in this thread, think long and hard. Are you showing the proper amount of respect? If that is not the case, do not hit the post button.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
July 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#121
Very informative post Jessica, all of the people sending pointless hate mail towards you and Eve should be ashamed. I hope they get sick to their stomach when they read this, knowing that they caused a fellow human being so much pain.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
July 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#122
This is getting a little ridiculous.
Bobo_
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States192 Posts
July 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#123
<3333333333 SlayerS_Jessica. You are a woman amongst women!
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
July 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#124
On July 22 2011 05:25 Thrombozyt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:01 SlayerS_Jessica wrote:
...
Having stumbled across this, I warned him in advance, in case he made the mistake of going too far, that current Korean laws on cybercrime allow punishment for those that circulate rumors about another person, whether the rumor is true or not.


Just for clarification, so that it's not just a miss-communication:
If you spread the truth about someone else online, you can get punished?

Isn't rumor by definition something that is unproven or false?



if yo state your opinion in a defaming way its a crime in korea and in germany (Paragraph 185 of the german strafgesetzbuch -beleidigung- and Paragraph 311 of the korean hyungbub - moyokjoi-)

if you state unproven facts that are defaming it is a crime in both countries (Paragraph 186 of the german strafgesetzbuch -ueble nachrede- and paragraph 307 of the korean hyungbub-myeonghoi hwaesonjoi-)

if you state false facts that are defaming it is a crime in both countries as well (paragraph 187 of german strafgesetzbuch -verleumdung- and paragraph 307 sec 2 of the korean hyungbub - sashiljokshi myeonghoi hwaesonjoi)
Wraith.978
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada37 Posts
July 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#125
I think it's great they're going ahead with the lawsuit - stuff like this is unacceptable. In Korea it's easier to track people like this, but here in the western world you can't. I mean, I'm all for freedom of speech and I don't think the government should be able to track your internet browsing for no reason but I hate how people constantly act the way they do because've the cloak of anonymity the internet provides. I'm tired of the "just ignore the trolls" line - why can't people just have a little civility? Something tells me the people who said the things about Eve would never say it to her face.

Anyways <3 SlayerS_Jessica and SlayerS_Eve keep up the good work trying to expand the horizons of the game.
Platinum Random. "Don't worry, that's just halo" -Huk
FuTon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States308 Posts
July 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#126
Jessica, I support you and your decision to recruit Slayers_Eve.
I hope I can get to see her play soon.
Maelstrom.cobhc
Profile Joined April 2010
United States126 Posts
July 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#127
I have a lot of respect for you jessica, keep it up!
I don't care what you need. I only do it to please me.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#128
I understand why you want to protect Eve, as this must be very hard for her.

But... to me it will remain an overreaction. Suing someone for something he wrote on the internet is too much in my opinion, and I will still think that no matter what, because I live in a different culture. The internet will always be full of haters. Let them hate and concentrate on the constructive feedback, even though its not always easy.

The fact that I don't understand it doesnt mean that I don't respect your choices. You do what you think is good for your players and this is great. Even if not everyone here agree with your way of dealing with it, it doesnt mean that we don't like you. You are doing a great job, keep fighting!
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 20:35:38
July 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#129
On July 22 2011 05:25 FreezerJumps wrote:
I don't support Eve, because she doesn't deserve what she's been given. I don't support Jessica, because she's given an opportunity to someone far less deserving than the masters and gransmasters players who have done far more to earn a contract.

But I also don't support the people who are saying anything worse than what I just said, nor do I support any of the supposed hatred and pictures which I haven't seen.


Yeah, ladder ranking is all that people should consider when giving someone an opportunity to play on a team................. :o

edit - Go SlayerS! And go BoxeR!!!!!!! <3
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Gaga
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany433 Posts
July 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#130
cultural differences and the much higher usage of internet in korea might lead someone to think that this is an overreaction.

thanks for the insight.

SlayerS fighting ! ^^
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
July 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#131
My mind is blown from the proportion of this situation.

I thought it was just jokes and giggles and some criticizing at first. But it seems many people hate?

Hate??? It sound like something that happened in the 1950s where people protest and hate others for no reason. And use water to hose down others and throw rocks. I didn't know those kind of people still existed, even on the internet... Hmmm Justin Beiber. That is all.

These people need to stop because it is indeed harassment.
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#132
Thank you so much for coming here and posting this for us Jessica!! Very much appreciated

I cannot help but think that something also might have been 'lost in translation' so to speak, regarding Haeun's twitterposts.. Because he didn't post on TL himself, right? It was translations of his twitterposts that made it into the thread about it, as far as I remember
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
July 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#133
i hope you can get those cyberbullies, and even if not, you know you have a million times the support than those losers have.
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
July 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#134
Holy, some people in Korea take this a little too seriously!

Good luck to EvE!
GGruss
Profile Joined October 2009
Sweden121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 20:38:52
July 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#135
About this kind of issues in a general sense: I think everyone agrees that the same laws governing conduct applies and should apply on the internet as well as in real life. However in real life people talk to their friends in ways that they would never do if the one they speak of would be able to hear it. On the internet, oftentimes these discussions are had in "public", where the slander is only a google search away.

Personally I feel that the victim should be the first concern here. If you want to be able to spread your photoshopped pictures of celebs and what not, do it in personal communication, not on message boards and open web sites. Because if you do, you should be liable.
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
July 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#136
SlayerS is and will always be my favorite team. I hope you pull through all this crap and come out of it even stronger~! SlayerS fighting!!!!!
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 20:41:30
July 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#137
I'm sorry, but agree with Jessica's decision or not, any foreigners sending her "hate mail" are snot-nosed, ungrateful pricks who need to remember where the roots of competitive Starcraft lie.
Behavior is a function of its consequences.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 20:39:33
July 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#138
good statement, except for the 'bloodless murder' :p

definitely shines a light on the Korean culture that im sure many of us are not aware of. hate it or love it, its how it is.

with that said, bottom line is that she received so much unwarranted hate, and it should stop. is she supposed to say 'no' to an offer from slayers?...
but i hope she realizes that there is also a lot of people who think it is a cool thing for her and slayers.
and hopefully she can have some peace of mind from that and not let this dumb and unfair situation get the best of her
byah!
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#139
7 pages made while I was reading the post.

Must be the cultural difference, never connected mass suicide in Korea and random tweets.
I am not good with quotes
zturchan
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada156 Posts
July 21 2011 20:39 GMT
#140
Well said Jessica. I hope that this can put the matter to rest. I look forward to seeing Eve prove herself in on the field of battle. I think everyone wants her to succeed.

SlayerS hwaiting!
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