EPTAbout some troubles (SlayerS_Jessica) - Page 8
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
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Kerm
France467 Posts
Keep it up Jessica, and good luck for Eve ! | ||
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FreezerJumps
Canada653 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:35 Charger wrote: Yeah, ladder ranking is all that people should consider when giving someone an opportunity to play on a team................. :o edit - Go SlayerS! And go BoxeR!!!!!!! <3 I didn't mean to imply that ladder ranking was the only important factor, but I do think it's quite a bit more important than gender and looks, which have been explicitly stated as reasons why she was added to the team. If you were in grandmasters on KR, playing against professionals, how would you feel when your chance to join a team is taken by someone else because she's a girl and you're a guy? I know a lot of people support affirmative action in e-Sports, but I'm not one of them. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
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professorjoak
318 Posts
http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/2011/julaug/features/tablo.html The story is that a large online hate club formed alleging that Daniel Lee (the Epik High rapper, not superdanielman) never got his bachelor's and master's degrees at Stanford, despite the Stanford registrar confirming that he had been there. People made up some weird conspiracy theory about how he stole the identity of some other guy named Daniel Lee who graduated the same year, even though the registrar showed that this too was bogus. | ||
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ranshaked
United States870 Posts
She isn't a professional. (eve). She's a gimmick as we would call it in America. It's a monetary and organized push for something that will never be. My team does it as well. In fact last night I allowed a female to start in the league match because of the same reason. Sex appeal and the glamor of a woman player. This happens every day and it's pathetic to waste court resources when their are many other serious issues going on. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
I find this occurrences that you have been put through, and Eve too, to be extremely similar to that situation that got IdrA banned from TL when he told everyone to begin flaming against Chill. I condemn anyone who has hurt in any way, shape or form you or Eve. | ||
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
No one thought that the response to them was overreacting. What we thought was a problem, was the way Jessica doesn't see any difference between sexual harassment and people criticizing the team for it's actions. Jessica recognizes that Eve is not currently skilled enough to play in professional games. Many people seem to think it's unfair to give her something that she hasn't earned in the same way anyone else would. That thing in this instance is the chance to be part of Slayers and practice with the pro team. There are good arguments for and against affirmative action like this. But Jessica needs to understand that there is a difference between people who disagree with affirmative action for girls in ESPORTS and people who sexually harass over the Internet. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:41 ranshaked wrote: Well written but I still disagree with you for blocking me on twitter. You're still an over reActive typical female. I wasn't being rude to you. You've lost my following by jumping to conclusions with me. You are a hypocrite. She isn't a professional. (eve). She's a gimmick as we would call it in America. It's a monetary and organized push for something that will never be. My team does it as well. In fact last night I allowed a female to start in the league match because of the same reason. Sex appeal and the glamor of a woman player. This happens every day and it's pathetic to waste court resources when their are many other serious issues going on. "over reActive typical female" Maybe you should shut up. You might have had a case about her overreacting, but bring sexism into it and you just sound like an asshole. | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:41 ranshaked wrote: Well written but I still disagree with you for blocking me on twitter. You're still an over reActive typical female. I wasn't being rude to you. You've lost my following by jumping to conclusions with me. You are a hypocrite. She isn't a professional. (eve). She's a gimmick as we would call it in America. It's a monetary and organized push for something that will never be. My team does it as well. In fact last night I allowed a female to start in the league match because of the same reason. Sex appeal and the glamor of a woman player. This happens every day and it's pathetic to waste court resources when their are many other serious issues going on. someone ID this guy and see if hes from the hateclub | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I read on these forums that you recruited SlayerS_Eve to the SlayerS clan based partially on the physical appearance. Now some people are obsessing over her physical apperance. What these have done is something noone should not do. They have brought shame to SlayerS clan, to her family, and to SlayerS_Eve herself. In the west we are generally very happy about the internet as a place where people can do most anything, as long as it is not illegal to do outside the internet. Also, we do not have the pride and dignity of the Korean people. I hope you are succesful in all of your future endeavours. With all respect A fan of SlayerS clan and Lim Yo Hwan | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:38 simmeh wrote: good statement, except for the 'bloodless murder' :p definitely shines a light on the Korean culture that im sure many of us are not aware of. hate it or love it, its how it is. with that said, bottom line is that she received so much unwarranted hate, and it should stop. is she supposed to say 'no' to an offer from slayers?... but i hope she realizes that there is also a lot of people who think it is a cool thing for her and slayers. and hopefully she can have some peace of mind from that and not let this dumb and unfair situation get the best of her its very real though there were a lot of korean actors and actresses that did commit suicide due to internet defamation. its an interesting question if you can actually make the argument if it is murder. probably not as suicide requires a free decision of oneself to take ones own life, but in the end the damage is the same. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:13 Exclamator wrote: The SC2 scene is being treated as some sort of soap opera. I am sick of it. Jessica, I think you might be suffering from schizophrenia. You clearly have absolutely no idea what "schizophrenia" means. You might want to ensure you know the definition of words/diseases before tossing them around. Being sensitive and perhaps overreactive to a situation does not imply being a schizophrenic. Sorry, but what you said is nothing short of...STUPID. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:42 strongandbig wrote: Although Jessica is totally right to defend Eve from the porn people and other bullies, there is still the original problem which we talked about. No one thought that the response to them was overreacting. What we thought was a problem, was the way Jessica doesn't see any difference between sexual harassment and people criticizing the team for it's actions. Jessica recognizes that Eve is not currently skilled enough to play in professional games. Many people seem to think it's unfair to give her something that she hasn't earned in the same way anyone else would. That thing in this instance is the chance to be part of Slayers and practice with the pro team. There are good arguments for and against affirmative action like this. But Jessica needs to understand that there is a difference between people who disagree with affirmative action for girls in ESPORTS and people who sexually harass over the Internet. Except the damn thread is labeled "Slayers Jessica overreacting!?" | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:40 FreezerJumps wrote: I didn't mean to imply that ladder ranking was the only important factor, but I do think it's quite a bit more important than gender and looks, which have been explicitly stated as reasons why she was added to the team. If you were in grandmasters on KR, playing against professionals, how would you feel when your chance to join a team is taken by someone else because she's a girl and you're a guy? I know a lot of people support affirmative action in e-Sports, but I'm not one of them. FXOKorea's still recruiting..... the "chance to join a team" is superfluous, even then, who says people still can't join SlayerS? | ||
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awha
Denmark1358 Posts
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uzyszkodnik
Poland64 Posts
Also personally i dont like making distinction between female and male sc2 players, thats not a game in which counts pure physical power so everyone can play it unless females have some mind-related issues which prevent them from getting to masters - and as far as i know there are some girls in masters ( i think one is even streaming on TL ) and gms so there is no proof for such difference. | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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